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I'm looking to replace my BMW Allround boots with something better - I'm particularly interested in crush resistance. They will primarily be used for touring on the GT, with one or two track days per year on the Ducati. I've narrowed my choices to the Sidi Vertigo Rain (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Sidi_Vertigo_Rain_Boots--507706.html) and the Vendramini Marathon Steel (http://www.roadrunner.travel/article-6465.php). The price difference is not an issue. I'm interested in protection, comfort for different weather conditions, and walkability while off the bike. Vendramini appears to use a steel insert system with an anticrush rubber sole, whereas Sidi uses more of an exoskeleton type system. Any thoughts?
 

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Have you looked at the Daytona boots? They make some fine protective boots too. Just a thought. I've got Vendramini, Sidi, and Daytona boots. I wear the Daytonas the most.
 

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I'm looking to replace my BMW Allround boots with something better - I'm particularly interested in crush resistance. They will primarily be used for touring on the GT, with one or two track days per year on the Ducati. I've narrowed my choices to the Sidi Vertigo Rain (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Sidi_Vertigo_Rain_Boots--507706.html) and the Vendramini Marathon Steel (http://www.roadrunner.travel/article-6465.php). The price difference is not an issue. I'm interested in protection, comfort for different weather conditions, and walkability while off the bike. Vendramini appears to use a steel insert system with an anticrush rubber sole, whereas Sidi uses more of an exoskeleton type system. Any thoughts?

I have a pair of Vertigo's. Great protection and very comfortable on the bike. For walking around off the bike..not so much.
 

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Texas Steer work boots from Goodwill...........
 

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I've had many pair of boots over the years, including a pair of Sidis...don't remember the model. However I've had a pair of Vendramini non steel Marathons for 2 years now and from day one they have been EXCEPTIONAL ! Hands down the most comfortable boot I've ever tried. I've put over 40k miles in nothing but them. From snow to rain to 120 degrees in Death Valley and every thing in between. Walking around is great, though I wouldn't want to hike too far in hot weather. Day to day on and off the bike, getting gas, restaurants etc, not a problem. Not too hot and plenty warm into the 20's with thicker socks. I've got fairly wide feet....E to EE....somewhere in that zone.....no problems. Fit was great right out of the box. Once a year I mink oil them real well....clean them regularly with a damp cloth and no problems with water leakage. The only fault I can find with them is some of the flexible reflective material where the top of the boot is connected above the back of the heel has flaked and worn off. No big deal really the boots aren't negatively affected in any way except for some very minor reflective area. When these do finally go I would buy another pair without hesitation.
 

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hdtogt said:
I'm looking to replace my BMW Allround boots with something better - I'm particularly interested in crush resistance. They will primarily be used for touring on the GT, with one or two track days per year on the Ducati. I've narrowed my choices to the Sidi Vertigo Rain (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Sidi_Vertigo_Rain_Boots--507706.html) and the Vendramini Marathon Steel (http://www.roadrunner.travel/article-6465.php). The price difference is not an issue. I'm interested in protection, comfort for different weather conditions, and walkability while off the bike. Vendramini appears to use a steel insert system with an anticrush rubber sole, whereas Sidi uses more of an exoskeleton type system. Any thoughts?
I have been using a pair of Sidi Evo Rain;s for the past 2 year and they are very nice on.
I went the "rain" path because no-one likes riding in wet boots right? Well they definitely keep the rain out but they also do a very good job of keeping the sweat in!
I dont know what the weather conditions are like where you are but it is sub tropical where i live and i while they are a great fitting and finished boot, they are very warm and dont ventilate.
I dont like boots that make me look like a Power Ranger but I think that I would go for something with some ventilation next time.
 

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I've owned Marathon Steels for three riding seasons and they are by far the most comfortable (on and off the bike), all-weather boot I own. They breath exceptionally well and are equally comfortable in cold weather as hot. I've had absolutely no complaint with their water-proofness either despite a small design flaw.

The lower ratchet strap can tend to want to poke its way into an overlapped, leather seam around the ankle. It takes no effort to guide it over it so it doesn't, but I didn't notice this for many a mile and as a result the strap has penetrated that seam, breaking the threads. They don't leak there and I think it would be impossible to sew without damage to the inner liner, so I've left it alone. Now that I know better, the same has not happened on the other boot. And now that you know, you can prevent it and enjoy an otherwise, awfully wicked pair of boots.
 

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Frey Daytona RoadStar GTX boots. I've worn a pair for 7 years and way beyond 100,000 miles (including totaling one bike in them) and they've been the best boots I've ever owned. Comfortable all day, highly adjustable to fit you specifically, Gortex lined to be waterproof, excellent protection. I can't imagine owning anything different, and I wore Sidis and some other brands before them.
 

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It sounds like the Marathons have a comfort edge - but what about protection? Any firsthand experiences? Has anyone compared the two in terms of protection? Unfortunately, I will have to mailorder either one as there is no local place to try either one on.
 

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It sounds like the Marathons have a comfort edge - but what about protection? Any firsthand experiences? Has anyone compared the two in terms of protection? Unfortunately, I will have to mailorder either one as there is no local place to try either one on.
No direct comparison, but I did have a 50 mph high-side in the pair I'm still riding in (40,000 miles and going strong). No foot damage, but a broken leg through hyper-extension of the knee with ground contact of my boot. The boot faired better than I and may have prevented a further fracture of the tibia. I don't think you kind fault in the protection of the Vendramini.

Since you live in a Northern state, the inclusion of the phase-change material "Outlast" should be a major consideration since your riding season will have tremendous riding temperature differentials. This was one factor that really helped my decision. I don't think any other manufacturer is using it and it makes a major difference in the comfort department.My Rukka suit uses it and I knew I had to have it in a pair of boots.

And no offence, but what would anyone living in California know about waterproofness? ;)
 

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hdtogt said:
I'm looking to replace my BMW Allround boots with something better - I'm particularly interested in crush resistance. They will primarily be used for touring on the GT, with one or two track days per year on the Ducati. I've narrowed my choices to the Sidi Vertigo Rain (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Sidi_Vertigo_Rain_Boots--507706.html) and the Vendramini Marathon Steel (http://www.roadrunner.travel/article-6465.php). The price difference is not an issue. I'm interested in protection, comfort for different weather conditions, and walkability while off the bike. Vendramini appears to use a steel insert system with an anticrush rubber sole, whereas Sidi uses more of an exoskeleton type system. Any thoughts?
I have a pair of Sidi Canyons (size 43) that I have worn exclusively for the last 3 years (~40,000 miles) and really like them. If you have wide "duck feet" like mine (EEE) they are one of the few European boots that fit. They are 100% waterproof (Goretex) and to my surprise not too hot in 90+ degree temps like my Chippewa Rally boots are (9 1/2 EEE). The instep buckle system works great and I have done several 5+ mile side hikes up mountains in them with no problems. I don't know about their crash worthiness, and hope to never find out, but they seem pretty sturdy and protective. I highly recommend them. :clap:
 
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