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I just purchased a VW Touareg. It has a 7700 pound towing capacity and a 770 pound tongue wt. limit.

I am considering a hitch carrier to bring the bike to the mountains with less hassle than a trailor.

Something like this

http://joeylift.net/Home_Page.php

or this

http://www.joehauler.com/camloc/camloc.shtml

or this

http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm

Heres a thread describing using a Touareg to haul a lighter bike this way. (My other bike weighs about the same)

http://forums.clubtouareg.com/ftopic1214.html

Has anyone tried something like this? Thanks for any input.

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i looked at carriers for about 6 months...

i got the joehauler deluxe cam loc heavy duty #JH05... those folks are very cool and spent a lot of time with me...

i installed ride rite air bags on the rear... absolutely necessay on the jeep... they make one he11 of a difference... http://www.fsip.com/riderite

i installed a special order draw tite class 3 heavy duty hitch... my buddy got it for me because it was not available online so i dont have a link... it had a class 4 rating... dont tell anyone...

i did install a led light bar that is tail... brake... turn... you can see it if you look close...

the whole thing is tight... i have about 900 miles on it... no slop... going 75 and 80mph on the freeway and didnt even know it was there...


 

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At 650+ lbs for the new GT I simply would not do it (the actual hitch weight is more since the 650# bike is ca. 2 ft from the hitch itself...torque!). I have a Versahaul carrier (that is one of the best) and a class 3 hitch set up on my Durango and the heaviest I'll carry is my F650 (430#) and that's only when I have to do it. Think about $22k riding on the back of your truck on $750 of metal that wiggles around and you'll go for a trailer. But, my F650 has a sticker on it: If this bike is on a trailer, call the cops - it's being stolen!. I only trailer (or hitch carrier) them if I've been injured or they're broken! Just my opinion. :tim
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I would just buy an inexpensive general trailer with a wood floor. It will carry multiple bikes when needed and can be used for other duties around the home year round.
Remember, as soon as you start talking about the great time you had when you brought the bike all the way to someplace cool your buddy will say "Wow, I wish I could go with you next time"
Now you can say buy one of the things I have and you can follow me....
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You can say lets do it! I can fit 3 bikes on the trailer!

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As a guy who does a TON of towing, that hitch set up scares me. Even on my F250 the tongue weight is <600 lbs. And that is supported weight (wheels and axles) connected to a class IV hitch. The lever and torque forces on that system must be through he roof!

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Beautiful bike, but man that is one scary setup. That defies the laws of physics. Gravity being foremost.
 

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SKIZIKS said:
Beautiful bike, but man that is one scary setup. That defies the laws of physics. Gravity being foremost.
Kind of like this?



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0826_050826_grandcanyon.html

I understand the difficult physics, but I have found about a dozen people online who have tried this solution and swear by it . . and, I have yet to find anyone who has had problems.

I really just want to avoid the extra hassle of a trailer if possible.
 

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Try this. Much less weight on the car, and a hydraulic lift to get the front wheel off the ground. Will work with any weight of bike because most of the weight stays on the back wheel.
Contact http://www.easylifter.co.uk/index.htm
 

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Interesting, but I didn't see anything about US dealers. I imagine the shipping to get one here would be murder.

This one also has a hydraulic lift

http://joeylift.net/Home_Page.php

Chrisdy said:
Try this. Much less weight on the car, and a hydraulic lift to get the front wheel off the ground. Will work with any weight of bike because most of the weight stays on the back wheel.
Contact http://www.easylifter.co.uk/index.htm[/QUOTE
 

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JCM0165 said:
Kind of like this?



I understand the difficult physics, but I have found about a dozen people online who have tried this solution and swear by it . . and, I have yet to find anyone who has had problems.

I really just want to avoid the extra hassle of a trailer if possible.[/QUOTE]

I do like my versahaul, but the K is a BIG, HEAVY bike. You've just had 8 people say don't do it, but it's your bike so whatever.

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I do like my versahaul, but the K is a BIG, HEAVY bike. You've just had 8 people say don't do it, but it's your bike so whatever.

Greg
True, but I'm still looking for someone who has had a bad experience with the setup- otherwise it's conjecture.

The jury is still out in any case. :teeth
 

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JCM0165 said:
True, but I'm still looking for someone who has had a bad experience with the setup- otherwise it's conjecture.

The jury is still out in any case. :teeth
I have seen many people with these setups down near Deal's Gap. Everyone I talked to loved them as well. Not sure I would do it. But I'm not telling you not to. ;)
 

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Borrow a trailer

That's what friends with trailers are for. They love to have someone else use their investment that sits around the other 50 weeks a year. You have a portable, secure garage, and if you're camping, a dry place to get dressed when it rains. I've considered that set up, but I think (subjective) that the GT is too heavy. But given my skills at backing up a trailer...
 

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So, based in part on positive feedback from owrstrich, I am looking at the Joe Hauler.

http://www.joehauler.com/camloc/camloc.shtml

Here's a vid of loading a similar sized bike on one:

http://www.joehauler.com/videos/JoeHaulerLoadVStrom.mov

I've been talking to Jay there, who has been very helpful. He said they've had zero failures in 11 years of being in business. He seems very confident my Touareg can handle it.

However, I need to be able to load the bike myself and, although Jay says it can be done with a little practice, I have concerns about doing it in a way that meets the seemingly unique requirements of certain BMWs

http://www.ascycles.com/pdf/Tiedown2.pdf

If I can see how to do so and load the bike myself, I'll prolly order the hauler tomorrow and have it next week. I'll keep the group updated with how it works.
 

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2wheeler said:
But given my skills at backing up a trailer...
I can back a trailer just like pulling it forward. Here's a leetle tip:

Put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel and grip.
If you want to back the trailer left, move your hand and steering wheel left.
To back it right, move your hand and steering wheel right.

This tip doesn't work pulling a trailer with a motorcycle, YMMV:teeth
 

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PLEASE don't drag just one wheel of your bike no matter what. I cant see doing that to anything unless I was being forced by a judge to give said bike to my ex wife.

The pure hitch setup is surely better for your bike than that. Just be sure it is insured and totaled if it falls off.


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It's not all conjecture, at least on my part as I have hauled one of my bikes on a hitch carrier. OK, I'll grant that the carrier is fine, not a problem. BUT, a Toureg can handle 1000# of tongue weight (bike+carrier+2' of torque)???? I really doubt it. If you do this, make sure you get their hitch lok or whatever they call it, to keep the carrier from moving around in the receiver. The versahaul was the first to have it (I've had mine for 5 years) and it makes a BIG difference.

Just be careful, especially loading (which is a big function of the ramp...mine has a very nice one...and the height of the receiver). And, look at the tie down features of the carrier; you want bars that are at least a foot off the centerline to secure the load. Then, you have to decide how to tie this beast safely. Don't use the Canyon Dancer system as it will destroy your heated grips.
OK, was that constructive?
Cheers, Greg
 

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Thanks for the feedback. I discussed the capabilities of my vehicle at length with Jay from Joe Haulers and sent him the pdf of how to tie down BMWs with the Telelever front suspension.

I ordered the Deluxe Cam-Lock system

http://www.joehauler.com/camloc/camloc.shtml

which I believe is designed to keep the carrier from moving as you mention.

Should be here mid next week, so I'll post feedback after trying it out.

GregC said:
It's not all conjecture, at least on my part as I have hauled one of my bikes on a hitch carrier. OK, I'll grant that the carrier is fine, not a problem. BUT, a Toureg can handle 1000# of tongue weight (bike+carrier+2' of torque)???? I really doubt it. If you do this, make sure you get their hitch lok or whatever they call it, to keep the carrier from moving around in the receiver. The versahaul was the first to have it (I've had mine for 5 years) and it makes a BIG difference.

Just be careful, especially loading (which is a big function of the ramp...mine has a very nice one...and the height of the receiver). And, look at the tie down features of the carrier; you want bars that are at least a foot off the centerline to secure the load. Then, you have to decide how to tie this beast safely. Don't use the Canyon Dancer system as it will destroy your heated grips.
OK, was that constructive?
Cheers, Greg
 
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