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I have a Dilemma. I have the opportunity to buy a 2003 K1200RS with 51,000 miles or a 2004 VFR800 ABS 3700 miles. The prices are very close. I am worried about the miles on the Beemer. The owner mentioned that there is a rattle near the front fearing when it is running. He did say that when he pulled in the clutch it stopped. This has me worried. I have ridden a k12rs before and I loved it.
The VFR800abs has only 3700 miles and nothing needs to be done to it.
The prices for the bikes are very close. So that is not a factor.

I would love here your suggestions. t
 

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The rattle is the normal sound of the RS at idle that is attributed to the clutch I believe. Mine does it and so does everyone else that I've ever heard. And don't be scared by the 51,000 miles as it's just getting broken in. Probably needs a new set of shocks though if they're still stock.
 

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VFR vs K1200RS

Hello,
I had a VFR before I sold it an got a 1999 K1200RS.

As far as power, high speed stability and riding 2 up, the K1200RS has the VFR beat.

Handling is about the same. Worse gas mileage, ( and K1200RS uses Premium Gas) by about 10-15%.

Also, for the K1200RS, be prepare to pay 100% more for maintainence and serivce compare to the VFR.

With the K1200RS at 51,000 miles....it will be an expensive bike to maintain.
If the clutch has not been been replace recently, be prepared to spend $2000 on the clutch (I am not kidding..it is 8.5 hours to replace the clutch.. Also, would need new shocks front and rrear. Check out the rear disc, as they tend to be worn to the limit (4.5 mm ) by 50-60,000 miles. A new rear disc will set you back $200-$400. If all those items are replaced recently, and the bike is in good shape, then it is a awesome ride.

A VFR with 3,700 miles on it is basically new with no need for repair.

Having said all that, the K1200RS is a better ride ....if you can stand the repair cost.

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Thanks

I was told by the current owner. Who has had the bike for close to a year. He is leaning towards an RT now. He said that there was quite a bit of work done at 45k up in NC. I will try to find out what was done at the dealership. Before I decide to make the purchase. I love the bikes.
Thank you for the info.
 

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ASO432 said:
The owner mentioned that there is a rattle near the front fearing when it is running. He did say that when he pulled in the clutch it stopped.
That noise is standard on EVERY K12 since they came out
in '98. It's called the box of rocks sound.

I've got 91,000 miles on my '98 K12RS/ I replaced the clutch
at 69K miles. The valves finally needed their first adjustment at
84 K miles. I've replaced two fork seals, one under warranty at
30K miles and the other at 84K. I've replaced the front master
cylinder at 80K miles and I put Ohlins shocks on it at 30K miles.
They've been rebuilt once.

I love my bike. :yesnod:
 

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I have been riding BMW's for 15 years I love them, but a VFR with 3700 miles vs. the BMW with 51K miles I think I would go with the VFR and ride it for a year or so and then look around for an almost new, low mileage, still under warranty BMW. Or you could just start from scratch and look for another bike. BMW keeps making them and people are going to keep selling them. The key is to be patient and wait for the right bike. Good luck. :D
 

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if i were you, i would search for a K12rs with less miles. There are tons of bikes out there now with the economy going sour. The bmw is a better bike and you still have a little while before the majority of riding starts.
 

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So are you saying go with the VFR?




voxmagna said:
With the economy going sour for all of us, you want good mpg, low service costs and reliability with no surprise bills ahead.
 

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ASO432 said:
The price for the VFR is 5800 and the K1200rs is 5500 OBO..
Hands down, the low mileage VFR!!!

The VFR will have lower maint. costs, higher resale and is not as bad a plow horse around town.
 

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VFR Vs K1200RS

I have owned both bikes, liked the K12RS, but LOVED my 1999 VFR800!

That V-4 makes a really sweet sound at speed. To me this one is a no brainer, go with the VFR...

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Used to own a '99 K1200RS. Great bike. Have owned an '05 K1200S for four great years. Outstanding bike. Picked up an '01 VFR800 a few weeks ago. Had an eye out for one ever since renting one in New Zealand several years ago. Wanted to see what it was all about. The NZ trip told me. Deserved of its legendary status. The past few weeks have just confirmed how special this bike is... that V-4 engine, the ergos, the refinements, the 100,000+ mile reliability. I'd go for the VFR.
 

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ASO432 said:
Thank you for your input.
It’s the difference between the chain-driven cams on the current models (2002+) and the gear-driven cams (prior to 2002). The gear-driven cams made the VFR a lot more fun to drive and I believe is what made the name for the VFR. Too many drivability complaints with the chain-driven cams. Especially in the higher RPM range.

Most loyal VFR enthusiasm or praying that Honda eventually go back to the gear-driven cams. It’s rumored that the VFR1000 (if it ever arrives) will make a return to the gear-driven cams.

Lost interest in the current model after first testing a forth generation (Wooo Hooooo) model.

Just saying…… :dunno:
 

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"With the economy going sour for all of us, you want good mpg, low service costs and reliability with no surprise bills ahead."

+1 on what Voxmagna said. :D
 
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