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My only suggestion is that I use 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean with not brake spray or such. Easier on the rubber parts. I also make sure things are completely dry before pushing pucks back in. I use stock pads. Some of the aftermarket pads have different thickness backing plates. Also I don't let them go as worn as possible. The pads do help with keeping heat from the pucks. On the other hand its not a track bike for me.
 

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My only suggestion is that I use 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean with not brake spray or such. Easier on the rubber parts. I also make sure things are completely dry before pushing pucks back in. I use stock pads. Some of the aftermarket pads have different thickness backing plates. Also I don't let them go as worn as possible. The pads do help with keeping heat from the pucks. On the other hand its not a track bike for me.
I would go OEM if the price were normal.

Less brake dust would be nice especially on the front because cleaning the front wheel is terrible. I'm also worried about warping or scuffing the rotor by going with a too aggressive pad, as it's relatively expensive to replace. The servo-assisted brakes cancel the need for strong grabbiness.
 

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‘the benefit of the very long wheelbase, anti-dive front end, servo brakes and decent ABS.’

I don’t think that the K1300s has servo brakes
 

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Yep, those are the ones. As I say the HH are great but the EPFA provide even more bite and fade resistance. Some people might find them slightly grabby for town work and, given that our brake system is servo-assisted, most people will find HH sufficient (and a step up from OE) so won't justify the extra cost of EPFA (they wear out quicker too).

Think I read somewhere that the K1300S holds the record for shortest stopping distance on a bike and beat some cars - the benefit of the very long wheelbase, anti-dive front end, servo brakes and decent ABS.
Here's that report of the K1300S beating everything else and a car in a braking test BMW K1300S wins ABS test, beats car

(As corrected elsewhere, the K1300S doesn't have servo-assisted brakes as I thought it did)
 

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Interesting. I really like the whizzy brakes... up until they fail I guess. Speaking of, what do I do when that happens?
 

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There’s a “How-To” video on the You Toobz flushing and bleeding what are clearly servo-assisted brakes on an ‘04 K1200LT. Maybe that’s what got mixed-up in this discussion. Some older heavy bikes had them and a reasonable assumption is that our bikes did too. But they don’t. Thankfully.
 

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My only suggestion is that I use 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean with not brake spray or such. Easier on the rubber parts. I also make sure things are completely dry before pushing pucks back in. I use stock pads. Some of the aftermarket pads have different thickness backing plates. Also I don't let them go as worn as possible. The pads do help with keeping heat from the pucks. On the other hand its not a track bike for me.
Sounds like a good idea and yes, air-lining completely dry is important. I've got a few gallons of that. I've been using brake cleaner on calipers for years, as has my brother (who runs a workshop and has done literally 1000s of calipers this way over 30 years) and had no issues but you never know and anything that's easier on rubber seals is a good idea
 

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I went from BMW oem to EBC HH and never looked back (y)
Just ordered. $70 shipped for a front set. Maybe Carbone Lorraine is better, but $30 more and longer shipping isn’t worth it.
 

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There’s a “How-To” video on the You Toobz flushing and bleeding what are clearly servo-assisted brakes on an ‘04 K1200LT. Maybe that’s what got mixed-up in this discussion. Some older heavy bikes had them and a reasonable assumption is that our bikes did too. But they don’t. Thankfully.
I believe the early models did?

I got the EBC HH pads, they’re less grabby than my prior pads, but also put out MUCH less brake dust
 

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I have the a set of brembo HH pads on my bike. They are more powerful than the stock pads, but they eat the rotors and mess with the ABS. By that I mean when the ABS is activated, it repeatedly lifts the rear wheel off the ground even with a loaded top box with every pulse of the ABS. Very annoying, looks stupid and squidly to others and can be dangerous, so I’m going to change them to either stock or carbon lorraine.
 
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