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I have a BMW Zumo, purchased with GT in November, 2008 that takes nearly 4 minutes to acquire satellites and draw the map screen. This is NOT acceptable. Anyone have similar problem and how did you resolve it?

Spoke with Garmin and they had me reset the unit. Problem still is present.

They will replace the unit but I may want to opt for a different one. Suggestions please.
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racerjack said:
I have a BMW Zumo, purchased with GT in November, 2008 that takes nearly 4 minutes to acquire satellites and draw the map screen. This is NOT acceptable. Anyone have similar problem and how did you resolve it?

Spoke with Garmin and they had me reset the unit. Problem still is present.

They will replace the unit but I may want to opt for a different one. Suggestions please.
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Do you have your music organized in individual files or one flat file?
 

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Hopefully you also have the current firmware installed. If you do follow below:

Does it acquire satellites faster if the SD card is out of the unit? Should be less than one minute to acquire without it.

If it is faster without the card, then you got some buggered up files on the cards: too many songs (+1000 is bad), screwed up MP3 tags or some that aren't tagged correctly, corrupted *.gpx imported files, or just a bunch of fragmented/buggered stuff that occurs at times, etc. on the card. Less likely would be a buggered *.img map file on the Zumo itself. If so, backup all files on the Zumo for safe keeping and reinstall the larger map files.

You can try and installing MP3 files in multiple folders. If that works great. However, chances are you have a corrupted MP3 that the Zumo skips during the initialization in multiple folders and may never play in random mode.

Mine occasionally "burps" a file on the SD card for whatever reason (skips, locks-up, slow loads, SD card read/writing errors, etc.). I have to check it once a month or so against a master MP3 list off an external hard-drive. I also have around 600 MP3's in ONE folder and boot time is about 55-64 seconds. A lot of it may be the ID tagging methods you use on the songs too (I strip off all track numbering info from each song as too many formats on numbering exists (e.g. 0-1, 1, 2-15, 0, 1/12, 03, etc.). I name Genre as "All Music" vs. Country, Jazz, Pop, whatever" and keep the album art to less than 300x300 pixels and <22 Kb in size. Too much stuff clogs it up, imo. It isn't the best nor smartest MP3 player around.


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My 550 takes twice as long to boot up, and locate the sats when I have the SD card in with about 3 to 4 gigs of music. Try pulling out your SD card, see if that speeds things up. Also like mentioned above go to Garmins site, make sure your running the latest update of firmware. I deleted all the voices from mine except for Jill. She's my girl, and the only voice I want giving me directions. Not sure if that speeds things up, but it freed up some memory. Garmin site explains how to delete the voices you don't use. Almost forgot I read on our sister site the zumo 660 is suppose to be much faster, but has no XM radio. If your going to swap out the 550 you might want to consider the 660. :)
 

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Zumo slow to load testing

Hello and thanks for your assistance.

Am in process of trying the suggestions.

First, the Zumo loads almost instantly when the SD card is removed.

I had 440 songs in 1 flat file folder named MP3. They consumed about 2 GIG of an 8 GIG card. I reformatted the card and am loading the folder with "fresh" MP3 files, 260 songs at 1 gig total size and will see what startup time turns out to be.
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racerjack said:
Hello and thanks for your assistance.

Am in process of trying the suggestions.

First, the Zumo loads almost instantly when the SD card is removed.

I had 440 songs in 1 flat file folder named MP3. They consumed about 2 GIG of an 8 GIG card. I reformatted the card and am loading the folder with "fresh" MP3 files, 260 songs at 1 gig total size and will see what startup time turns out to be.
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Your problem is solved. Just put your tunes in a lot of smaller folders and you will be OK. I have a 2 gig card and had the same problem. I split tunes in a dozen folders nad it now loads faster.
 

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racerjack said:
Hello and thanks for your assistance.

Am in process of trying the suggestions.

First, the Zumo loads almost instantly when the SD card is removed.

I had 440 songs in 1 flat file folder named MP3. They consumed about 2 GIG of an 8 GIG card. I reformatted the card and am loading the folder with "fresh" MP3 files, 260 songs at 1 gig total size and will see what startup time turns out to be.
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Your problem is solved. Just put your tunes in a lot of smaller folders and you will be OK. I have a 2 gig card and had the same problem. I split tunes in a dozen folders and it now loads faster.
 

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racerjack said:
I have a BMW Zumo, purchased with GT in November, 2008 that takes nearly 4 minutes to acquire satellites and draw the map screen. This is NOT acceptable. Anyone have similar problem and how did you resolve it?
Mine takes a minimum of two minutes in the morning after being in the garage all night, or longer. Sometimes it has taken more than a half hour. I just tested it without the SD card and it still took 2 minutes. It has the latest firmware and on American English and British English are the only voices loaded. Two minutes is unacceptable to me considering...

I have a Garmin 205 in my car that boot ups and acquires satellites in less than a minute. So I know Garmin makes at least one unit that works quickly.
 

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Zumo, slow to start

Spoke with Garmin tech today. What a joke. They told me that I needed 50 or fewer mpe songs on my SD card and the start up would be much faster. I think this answer is ridiculous.
Has anyone tried to start their zumo with a blank SD card? If so how fast idoes it start as compared to "NO CARD"
Iam currently on the road and have no way to try the above.
Also, I will try the suggeestion of putting my mp3s in several folders. Garmin says it makes no difference how many file folders the mp3s are in. We will see.
I suggest we push garmin to work on the priority at startup that makes the GPS software first priority and the music, audiobooks etc lower priority.
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Garmin Slow to Start - Workaround

Tried couple of things with the Zumo

First of all, I deleted the MP3 folder on the GARMIN drive, it had only 2 songs anyway.
Then:
1. started up with empty SD card, almost immediately it was ready.
2. started up with six mp3 folders on Class 4, 4GB SD card each with 50 or fewer songs. It was ready to go in about 30 seconds. Total songs, 297 in 6 folders.

That may be as good as it gets..

I have a class 2 8GB SD card on order to try anyway.
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Garmin Slow to Start - Workaround Final Chapter

Received and installed the class 2 SD card. Added another 200 songs in 4 more folders, each with 50 songs exactly. This makes total songs @500 in 10 folders. Zumo starts and is ready to go in about 40 ish seconds. This is acceptable for me.

BOTTOM LINE As advised before. Use whatever SD card class you wish but make sure each folder with MP3 files has 50 or fewer MP3 files in each.

Thanks to all who responded.

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Thanks you guys! I sent a unit back to Garmin and they sent me another that started up just as slow - about three minutes. After I deleted their MP3 file and moved all of my MP3's to separate files of fifty or less, it starts in about 45 seconds. What a difference! Grazie!! :clap:
 

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Garmin Zumo 550 BMW slow to start

Hello,
Following up on problem with this device, here is the latest. The device I had in Sept 09 has been replaced 2 times, each replacement has the same slow to start situation when there are MP3 files on the SD card.

I have used the technique of putting 50 or fewer MP3 files in a folder and this speeds the start up. Today, May 27, 2011, I contacted Garmin tech support on this problem and they continue to be of little help. Fortunately, I have the "folder" solution for now.

If anyone has this device and has a speedy start-up (painting the map page) within 2 minutes, I would like feedback on how many songs you have and how the SD card is configured.

Thanking you in advance
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Mine starts in about 1 minute 15 seconds until I see "Ready to Navigate" and get past the "Drawing..." wait until the map is shown on the screen and ready to go. It used to be faster when I had only 300 songs, maybe 1 minute, but I won't complain abut 512 songs, plus City Navigator USA in the Zumo 550, and City Navigator Europe loaded onto the SDHC card along with all with the routes, BMW dealers, waypoints, music and audio books. The 8 GB SDHC card is crammed pretty well now.

I have ALL my MP3 songs in one folder called MUSIC on the SDHC 8 GB (Class 6 fwiw) card. This goes against the general train of thought of putting maybe 20 MP3's in one folder on the SD card and continuing on with anther folder of 20, etc.

Looking at my SDHC card now, there are 4 folders: GARMIN which has all of the Europe City Navigator maps on it, GPX with some userdata.gpx file in it, MUSIC with two folders: one is AUDIO BOOKS and the other is MUSIC (all MP3's and there are 571 songs there all at 192KBS Constant-Bit Rate rips from my CD's), and last folder is USERDATA with some userdata.adm file in it.

What can and often happens is a MP3 file will get corrupt and then the Garmin has an issue reading it. When people move the MP3s into a bunch of folders, they are burying the problems further down where the Garmin OS doesn't look for it. At some point, that song may show up and play partially or you may hear the same songs over and over in Random mode. Often people will try and put together play lists and track number and some are really weird in the MP3 header like Track 1, or 01 or 001 etc. How much of that carries on through all your MP3 and playlists makes the OS go nuts trying to figure the mess out.

There is a nice program I use called "Tag & Rename" and it gets a lot of that stuff sorted out easily. There are also MP3 software to look for corruption in the MP3 files themselves. I often will use a program called "Beyond Compare" and compare the SD card in the Zumo against a portable hard drive backup and it seems like every 3 months or so some MP3's in the Garmin get corrupted somehow and the CRC values change or B.C. says the files are different for some reason. If I play the one from the Zumo back on the computer, often the thing is corrupt and skips, plays short, has a long silent period, or something buggy about it. The Zumo, or the card, changes something and it messes up the Garmin OS on start-up. Keep trying to straighten it out and you often will foul another MP3 and it just gets worse. Take the card with some problem out, like a corrupt or bad header on a MP3, and "Surprise!" you' find it starts faster.

So a little housekeeping may be in order on your SD card. Look for some MP3 checker software and try that and there are some freeware ones. Then check to see if you have some wild header stuff like songs with a & or ! - or " or ' , ( ) or something similar in them and get rid of it. Clean up the those titles. I erase ALL Track Numbering in "Tag & Rename" too, just leave it blank. I also list all the music files as All Music and the Audio books I rip from CD's as Audio Book (I leave them as Chapter 1, Chapter 2, etc. so they will play in order.). No sense having a bunch of genres to slow it down searching and categorizing. I do have 100x100 pixel images for all my album art buried in the MP3 files to via "Tag & Rename," but kept them down to no larger than to about a 23KB JPG file size so the MP3 isn't bloated with some huge JPG album art within it.

I will say I am not fond of the Garmin audio system in general. You cannot beat a Sony Walkman X-series player with their equalizer and some decent phones compared to the Garmin audio. The Garmin audio is probably the bottom of the barrel, but if you have poor phones then it wouldn't mater. Plug in some Ultimate Ears UE18 phones with up to 6 speakers per ear and you'll really be disappointed in the Garmin audio, but you'll pay maybe $1,400 for their phones too. Mine are the UE11 with only 3 speakers per ear but I must admit they are nice and comfortable for an 8 hour day of music and little to no wind noise and fatigue from it. Like these: http://ultimateears.com/en-us/products/18-pro Probably one of the better bike purchases I've made in recent years.

Okay. ALL Bluetooth sucks too! What a waste of $2,000 worth of M/C junk I've bought for crappy, battery-driven audio than needs chargers, pairing and re-pairing, poor sound quality with decent phones, woman with a stronger BT in the car next to you un-pairs yours, and then it dies completely when you need it. Turn up the volume and it dies even sooner and then you have to spend 2-3 hours waiting on a charger. "Let's go for a ride!" "I can't. I have to wait until the BT charges up for a couple of hours."
Then I listen to pin-heads who say "Isn't BT wonderful in that I am wire free?" Yeah. And just how long did you have 'a charger wire' plugged into your BT battery for the 5 seconds to plug in on a bike? :twocents: :rant


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