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mmonroe said:
In addition to the admission price being high, that is the part where owning a semi-exotic limited production run bike/car bites you on the ass. It can be a tough pill to swallow at times. :teeth
Exactly.

Some of the constant complaining on this board sometimes makes me wonder why some continue to own the bike. I've had issues on my '06, but they have been addressed, now, sometime ago. However, it is an expensive, exotic, first run, radically different, break-through model year from a manufacturer I've not only trusted, but depended on for nearly 25 years. I expected issues bececause it was a first run. I didn't know what, but I did have the luxury of this forum to research BEFORE I bought it with 3,000+ miles on it, and the smile has not left my face since.

Its finicky issues have been fun to learn about and explore, tweak and discuss, and a part of owning the animal that it is. Some scary (pre-airbox throttle) after 20 odd years on a K100RT, some head scratcing (the need for brake pads with sensors), most are amazing when they are parked side-by-side (which they ALWAYS are in my garage). Yes, there are shortcomings when we all have nothing to do in the winter but put our collective microscopes on it. But any issue I've had has been addressed, at no cost. If it was absolutely perfect, I wouldn't have had all the fun on this forum that I have, meeting you all, learning about it, hearing how you folks tweak and farkle. It is the first of what will be a great series, and that is exactly why it will be in my garage forever. I expect to keep it up just like I've kept my K100RT for 22 years, and also plan to keep my '07 GS. I can't wait to hear the comments about the GT the way I've been pleased to have people walk up to me and think my K100RT is new. It WILL happen someday. In 2031, the '06 GT will be a pretty awesome ride, even when, I hope, all the new bikes will hover.

From the day machines leave an assembly line, the stopwatch starts ticking on its obsolesence as well as its lifespan. I can't do anything about the first- the next model year always comes around. But this particular model has had an incredible initial first two years for the industry and BMW, and that is really something cool to be a part of. The rest has just been fun on top of that.

The K1300GT isn't a new bike. It is an enhanced and refined model of an existing one. No doubt it is expected to be better.

But read Mr; Ash's review, which from the headline, I still will not, but take equal time to go back, lookup and read all the reviews from 2006 and 2007 when the series came forth, and re-live the excitement you had waiting for yours to arrive, waiting to hop on it for the first time. I think about that all the time, not just the now resolved issues.

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grifscoots said:
So far the PowerFrk has fixed all the final fueling issues the new O2 didn't. I can't rave about it yet as I haven't ridden it in hot weather yet.
How does this connect to the bike? Where is it mounted? Any pics? Thanks Grif. :D :D
 

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This Power FRK Module accesses the ECU through the IAT port. It modulates the IAT signal using a patented High-Tech circuit board with 14 electronic components to provide the proper mixture and timing for best performance. These components are sealed in a “Marine Grade” electronic module that has Plug n Play connectors that perfectly match the OEM on-board counterparts.
 

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I just happened to spend some time on a shiny new red K13GT today (hey, someone's gotta do it :D). The executive summary is that the bike just flat works better and pulls harder than the K12 ever did.

The hesitation and flat spots are absolutely gone, and the bike pulls cleanly in any gear from pretty much any rpm. This bike had just finished its break-in oil change, so I was able to run through the full rev range with gusto. :D

Personally, I don't have any issue with the new controls, reservoirs, or side vents. All I really care about is what the next apex looks like as it hurtles towards me. And that it does, very quickly.

As you dive into the apex, the K13 leans in easily and stays rock solid until you rocket away with a growl. The changes to the trail and lighter weight suspension components do show when pushed hard and the bike simply responds without complaint. As it should do.

The brakes are the same excellent Brembo units fitted to the K12, and even full-on ABS stops from super-legal speeds weren't a problem. I didn't run that hard long enough to see if the brake fade problem is still there, but so far there wasn't any drama.

And I think they did something with the ergos (as others have mentioned) as I was pretty comfortable with the bars full up, even though I've been using bar risers on my GT for the past two years. Oh, and the stock windshield is only marginally effective for my 6' frame, but that's the same as before so no biggie there.

My two minor complaints (and they really are minor) are these:

There was excess play in the throttle cables that made 1st gear parking lot maneuvers jerky. That can be adjusted out though. And I don't like the new skinnier grips, but that's easily remedied with some slip-on foam covers (which also reduces any leftover traces of unwanted vibration).

Also, after a particularly hard full-ABS stop, I downshifted and let the clutch out while still rolling along a bit and I did get one loud, quick screech. No judder like before, but a bit of noise in an odd situation.

I was also able to review some super-secret BMW paperwork that described many of the changes in very great detail, with direct comparisons to the K12 and graphs, charts, and cut-away drawings regarding the new clutch, transmission gears, drive shaft, ESA II, suspension linkages, switches, etc. Basically, gearhead engineering porn. And it was all very good. :D

I still have some concerns about overall reliability based on my past experiences, but I won't know for sure until I put 50-60K miles on one. :D But even now I can see that BMW has gone over the entire bike and tweaked most everything. From the outside it looks very similar to a K12 but under the bodywork it's a whole different package that really shines as you're attacking your favorite corners.

We also had a C14 and an FJR on the ride, and met up with an ST13 later in the day. The bottom line is that none of those compare directly to the new GT in terms of fit, finish, factory farkles, and fun.

From all the reviews and specs that I'd read so far, it looked like the K13 is what the K12 should have been in the first place. Having ridden it myself, I can now see that that's really true.

Anyone got a few thousand $$'s lying around that I can borrow for an upgrade? :D
 

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"My two minor complaints (and they really are minor) are these:
There was excess play in the throttle cables that made 1st gear parking lot maneuvers jerky. That can be adjusted out though. And I don't like the new skinnier grips, but that's easily remedied with some slip-on foam covers (which also reduces any leftover traces of unwanted vibration)."

My feeling exactly. I noticed the extra free play in the throttle, as well. First thing I did when getting ready to ride off the dealer's lot was to try to slip my throttle rocker on. Surprise! Now I have to dig through my boxes of mcycle junk to look for that little rubber band that originally came with it! Bummer.

Glad to see my initlal, subjective responsives after only a short ride are reflected in your experience as well.

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Good is good enough so I'll stick with my K1200. I tried doing upgrade city with stereos back in the day when I was in the service. Broke the bank. It's pretty safe to say this is my last new motorcycle; this and the Velocette puts things in perspective for me. Don't ride a newer bike to see if you are happy, ride an older one....your wallet is safer. :)
 

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Hey Meese.......I just don't need to read positive reviews about the new bike OK? :mad:


Not unless you find more than one person with a few thousand $$$ lying around! :D :p: :banghead: :cry:

Wonder if I could put some 08 reservoirs on one......hmmmm.
 

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dongold said:
"My two minor complaints (and they really are minor) are these:
There was excess play in the throttle cables that made 1st gear parking lot maneuvers jerky. That can be adjusted out though. And I don't like the new skinnier grips, but that's easily remedied with some slip-on foam covers (which also reduces any leftover traces of unwanted vibration)."

My feeling exactly. ...

Don G

OH NO! Not MORE issues! Call BMW NA IMMEDIATELY!

:D

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Robert_W said:
Hey Meese.......I just don't need to read positive reviews about the new bike OK? :mad:
Maybe you can find a copy on eBay, cheap. :D

Seriously guys, the reservoirs are a complete non-issue, and aren't going to change. Let it go. ;)
 

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Meese said:
Maybe you can find a copy on eBay, cheap. :D

Seriously guys, the reservoirs are a complete non-issue, and aren't going to change. Let it go. ;)
You know the funny thing is for all the bitching and moaning every body around here did about that manual on Ebay......it's still there! :wtf: So much for the morality police. :D

And the reservoirs MIGHT become a non issue after a while....maybe....but my brain is now going on 15 years and 100's of thousands of miles of left thumb go left....right thumb go right. That would take some adjusting too.

However, I'll worry about it when I actually am considering buying one. It'll be a while. Unless of course I find one to take for a test ride. Then I could be in trouble. :yeow:
 

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the author was killed on the GS launch event in South Africa - he wife didn't keep his website alive

He was quite famous, the Daily telegraph's biking journo for 15 years, formerly from MCN where he remained a regular contributor ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... n-Ash.html

the whole launch was scrapped - a dangerous flaw became known and they covered it up - this death wasn't the only "situation" during SA launch.

Another UK journalist nearly had a crash" Bike magazine" jurno, was riding on smooth flat dry tarmac at the launch doing 70mph (120kph) and hit a small pothole and it went into an extremely violent tank slapper that smashed the bike to bits and wrote it off - but he never fell off. I think this was really the bit that got the event cancelled (FYI that mag just hit 50 years of publishing this year)

shortly after a steering damper that was always std. on the Adventure big tank version was retrofitted fitted on all LC bikes

then it was a SA guy's campaign after he had a massive fall that got the recall to replace the dangerously flimsy fork stations they fitted on the LC bikes - which are now on the 4th iteration and still pathetic

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