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I keep hemmin and hawin, trying to solve 6 problems with one jacket of course :confused:

I really like the vented racing jkt by Foxcreek leathers but it has no armor. It does have extra leather in the impact areas but still....

I'm also looking at vansons, similar style but with armor.

I'd really like armor in the jkt so thats taking me down to a couple choices.

I didn't like the coats from johnson leathers except one of them, still not sure about that one, but it does come with the armor in it.

I guess we can't have the cake and eat it too, I want a 'safe' jacket but one I can wear around casually, I don't think you can have both unless you get a coat where it has pockets for armor (like the foxcreek jkts). decisions decisions...

what are ya'll wearing and happy with out there?

ps...trying to stick w/american made but not if I can't find anything that works for me.
 

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I keep hemmin and hawin, trying to solve 6 problems with one jacket of course :confused:

I really like the vented racing jkt by Foxcreek leathers but it has no armor. It does have extra leather in the impact areas but still....

I'm also looking at vansons, similar style but with armor.

I'd really like armor in the jkt so thats taking me down to a couple choices.

I didn't like the coats from johnson leathers except one of them, still not sure about that one, but it does come with the armor in it.

I guess we can't have the cake and eat it too, I want a 'safe' jacket but one I can wear around casually, I don't think you can have both unless you get a coat where it has pockets for armor (like the foxcreek jkts). decisions decisions...

what are ya'll wearing and happy with out there?

ps...trying to stick w/american made but not if I can't find anything that works for me.
I have a Mark 2 Challenger Vanson Jacket and Iove it. It is thick and protecting, I also have a BMW textile jacket with a liner for rain and cold riding, also a heated liner for real cold. Have fun shopping :D :teeth
 

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Vanson or BMW

Vanson is very good. I have one and my favorite is the BMW Atlantis. It is probably the finest looking jacket to wear anywhere, has armor and is waterfroof (the Vansons are not)
 

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If you want the best protection for your body with armor, liners, etc. you should be looking at the Kevlar Motoport clothing. I have the GP-2 jacket with both liners (never used the inner inside liner). If you have electric stuff I would probably pass on at least one of the liners maybe both. I have nothing but good things about the 2 piece Kevlar Mesh suit. This combo will set you back about $800-$900 but will last at least 10 years. I have a buddy who has had his GP-2 jacket/pants for almost 15 years. He has been in two accidents, one at 45 and one at 70 with his '95 GS on top of him sliding down the road and no marks whatsoever.
 

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If you want the best protection for your body with armor, liners, etc. you should be looking at the Kevlar Motoport clothing. I have the GP-2 jacket with both liners (never used the inner inside liner). If you have electric stuff I would probably pass on at least one of the liners maybe both. I have nothing but good things about the 2 piece Kevlar Mesh suit. This combo will set you back about $800-$900 but will last at least 10 years. I have a buddy who has had his GP-2 jacket/pants for almost 15 years. He has been in two accidents, one at 45 and one at 70 with his '95 GS on top of him sliding down the road and no marks whatsoever.
I'll give a second for Motoport. May not be the best looking, but you can't beat the protection. Starts out stiff but softens with time (washes). The kevlar mesh is great for hot weather, then add a liner for cool or wet weather, then add a Gerbing under the liner and you can ride in the really cold stuff.
 

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I am the Imelda Marcos of riding jackets and one of them is the Fox Creek Vented Racing Jacket.

Ive had it for a few years and it still looks new. The purchase price is excellent and given our climate I wear this jacket more than any other and yes you are right in that it falls short in the armour department.

From what i can gather the folk at Fox Creek are pretty high on customer service and I know that they do a fair bit of customizing for size etc.

If you havent done it already maybe a call to them might see them make a jacket for you with armour? Your money will also then be staying in the USA!

Good Luck
 

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Ya know dadicool, I was thinking the same thing. I keep looking at jackets and keep going back to one or two styles. I do like the vansons too, my vanson mesh (older style) is great. Only thing is, no collar, so the wind/dust storms crossing the SW are a pain, literally. But I really like the foxcreek style and its made in WVA to boot.

On the textiles, I've had quite a few and liked them ok, here's what I've been thru:

Firstgear mesh (gave away)
Vanson mesh (still use)
Gerike (sport jkt, came free with my 01 FZ1 purchase)...I liked that jacket (gave away)
Darien pants and jacket, still have the pants as backup, sold the darien (owned 2 actually)
Cheep leather, triple thick (competition) but no armor. Looks great. Stiching sucks.
Savannah II, BMW..great jkt, a bit large for gerbings underneath, too loose with a t shirt on.

Mmm...I think thats it.

gear is so hard to buy, its expensive and if you don't like it, you won't wear it (don't ask me how I know that).

I think the motoport is similar to the darien in construction and I just didn't like it much in general, design is great, just a personal thang. I wore the dariens for years/lots of miles so I have some time in them.

Maybe I'm a hardly wannabee, I dunno, I just like leather jackets and have always wanted a nice one so maybe its time to jump.

I also need to send both of our Savannah II's in for zippers and velcro, I can't keep the coat closed in the wind. I'll do that when I have a backup to wear.
 

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I almost forgot about these guys:
http://home.mira.net/~gary/jackets-m.htm
I ordered a complete suit from them years ago, and because of the strength of the dollar then, it was very affordable. They will custom make stuff in different colors if you want. They also have kangaroo (which I would have ordered if I knew more then). Good luck.
 

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Thanks for the help/links ya'll.

I rode over to Irv Seaver's BMW for the first time, nice place and people! Lots of gear inventory, including bikes.

tons of jackets but only vanson leathers, all were perf except the one i tryed on....ahem...I'm old and all but daym, the jkt fit great until I got to the waistline, i could put a couple small children in there!!! I'll have to watch out for that, there was no adjustable waist on this one either. didn't catch the model, plain jane with some armor (no back).

Being in socal, I guess the leathers dont' move too fast. There are some really nice textiles out there these days too, tempting!! but I've already got a good textile so on to the leathers....
 

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I'm going to give credit where credit is due. I use a Harley Davidson FXRG jacket. It has a VERYsoft and supple leather shell with a heavy-duty waterproof liner. It's fully-armored and has tons of pockets. It's not cheap at around $600, but it's a solid jacket.
 

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does it have all the logo's on it? I'm a plain-jane, the vanson sleeves are about as much logo as i can take...i know i know, picky picky... :)

ps...all the good coats cost that much or more so yepper, they ain't cheep.
 

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I have one of those FXRG's in my Imelda Wardrobe too. Nice Jacket. I tend to use it in winter.
The only problem I found with it was the arms were very baggy and tended to flap at speed. This would have also made the elbow armour useless in a fall.
I think that they must have used Paul Tutel Snr as a sizing model.
I took it to a leather repair guy and had him take the sleeves in and now shes perfect. It has two zipper vents in the front and one across the back but for my climate its nowhere as good as my Fox Creek Vented for warmer riding. No visible branding or Logo's, just some embossing on the chest and arms.
 

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Does anyone have a jacket made by, or know anything about Langlitz Leathers, of Portland OR?

http://www.langlitz.com/

They make high priced custom leather jackets, obviously for the "biker" crowd. They will include thick leather padding at the shoulders and elbows, but I don't know if that is as effective in a fall.
 

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Well, I bought the foxcreek Grayson jacket, ordered the force field armor with it as well.

I decided I liked the style a bit better than the vented jkt once I stared at it for awhile.

I hope their sizing runs true, I ordered a 46. I've always been a 47-48, I can't figure out where the hell I'm disappearing too!! :rotf: I hear shrinking comes with age, that might be the problem.

I only had a t shirt on when measuring so we'll see how it fits.

thanks for all the help, I spent a lot of time researching before making this jump.
 

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BMW Atlantis

If you ever get a look at this jacket and try one on, you're hooked. Irv Seaver is a BMW chlothing dealer (that's a big deal now days), and the Scottsdale dealer is, as well, so you should be able to find one or get them to get one the right size. I spent a couple of years trying to rationalize that suit and when I did, I had to buy two (the wife, you know). Good luck.Here's the suit
http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/_error/index.html
 

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For future reference, if you make it to SoCal regularly you might want to talk to Dana at Bates Leathers. Great product. Custom fit.
 

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You wont be disapointed, they make a nice product and excellent service. I wish the armour had been an option when I bought mine.
 

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Does anyone have a jacket made by, or know anything about Langlitz Leathers, of Portland OR?

http://www.langlitz.com/

They make high priced custom leather jackets, obviously for the "biker" crowd. They will include thick leather padding at the shoulders and elbows, but I don't know if that is as effective in a fall.
I have a Langlitz jacket (classic style) and pants. Great service. They re-did the pants twice until the fit was right. I did not get any extra padding, but the leather is heavy and thick.

I was not surprised that it kept me warm in the cold, but _was_ surprised at how comfortable it can be when it is very hot as well. The leather does not cling to your body, so the air seems to circulate well.

Only drawback, of course, it that it is not waterproof, so you have to put on rain gear over it.

As I matter of fact, my first motorcycle jacket was a "Cascade" from Langlitz, back in the '60s. They bought it back from me when I ordered the new stuff. If it had not shrunk around the waist <g> over those years, I would still be wearing it.

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I think it was Bates that I visited a few months back, just days before they moved their location. I walked there from work here in HB. they didn't have anything I liked on the shelf and I was going to visit them later but time is a meany lately.

I dunno, I think I'll like the one I ordered. It will get delivered next tues, then I'll know for sure!

Ya, splitting lanes for hours and all here in socal, I can't see riding without armor, yikes!

Besides, I drive like an a-hole....heheh, just kidding:)

ps...I will definitely provide a wear-report once I can get a few hours in the jkt.
 

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I just recently went through this.

I picked up a used aerostich. Very cool, but fugly.

Then I picked up a used Vanson cobra. Awesone jacket, you feel protected. ITs a must keep.

Then I got a great deal on a near new set of Motorport gear. At first i was tentative because i thought it was ugly. But honestly, my stretch kevlar pants I will never go without. easy on and off, feel like pajama pants, ultimate protection. Mesh Ultra jacket, super breathable, looks no worse than my old santiago jacket.

conclusion.

Ill never wear my stich, but will keep it as a piece of history, and in case i coummute to work.

Vanson jacket and ultra pants is a great combo. plus a klimm rain coat, stretch pants repel light water. And for the summer heat, the mesh jacket.

The ultimate in protetction and comfort. Ill never spend an equal amount on bmw or revit gear which is mostly just cordura 500 protection.

Motoport + vanson. Buy used, it last forever and i paid less than 50% sticker for like new gear.
 
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