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My '02 RS specs say it takes 4 quarts of oil when changing the oil and the filter.

In reality, it's never taken more than 3.5 quarts to bring the oil level halfway up the sight glass.

As an aside, I fill until the level is near the top of the red ring in the sight glass. When running on the center stand, this drops the level to the halfway mark.

Anyway, I'm thinking the 4 quarts is with a virgin crankcase and once oil has been used, there is enough residual to account for the last 0.5 quarts.

Or, could be, that the specs are incorrect.

Anyone else unable to put in 4 quarts????

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3.5 Liters is the spec. That's 3.698 us liquid quarts.Is that from Clymer the 4 quarts? Some of their conversions are off.

But yes there is a fair amount of oil left inside the engine.Oil pump/oil channels etc,are still oiled up hopefully. Lots at the bottom of the sump and inside the oil cooler.Run bike until the oil cooler lines are hot which means the oil cooler thermostat is open. You may get a few more ounces of dirty oil out that way.


And stick your fingers into the sump when the oil filter is out? A few more ounces can be dragged out.
 
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Good point.

BTW, the 3.5 L is without changing the oil filter.

I always change my filter, so with that the BMW manual lists 3.7 L (equal to 3.9 quarts).

ALSO, I have an old red plastic gas can with an angled nozzle that can be rotated.

Cleaned it out and will use it in the future to replace the oil.

It has a 1 gallon mark which will be used as a "fill-to" indicator.

The spout is not flexible so some oil remains in the can but not enough to prevent filling beyond the top of the sight glass.

So most of the replacement oil will be "glugged-in" and towards the end the sight glass will be carefully watched.

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Strange your manual disagrees with the maintenance instructions booklet that came with my 03 bike? Booklet states "if filter is renewed 3.50L".


Hang on....Clymer states 3.75L for 1998-2000 and 3.5L for 2001-on.


There are two versions of the BMW service manual. I have the latest in my shop computer,that's the one with the iABS stuff in it so applies to 2001(eurospecs))2002(us) and up. I'll check later.
 

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BMW service manual, part number 01 790 137 531

Printed in Germany 03/01

Service Data as of model/year 01 integral ABS:

Engine oil capacity with oil filter change :3.5L

 

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Clymer states 3.75L for 1998-2000 and 3.5L for 2001-on.
Mystery Solved!!!

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I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.
 

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Mystery Solved!!!

:clap:

I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.

Bullseye is good. My bike is topped almost to the brim right now as I am about to hit the road and it does use a little oil so that will delay the top up. Mind you it does smoke a little on start up if left overnight on sidestand when that full.No biggie.


As per Clymer, difference between MIN and MAX marks is 0.5L.


I never measure my oil. 5-6 oil changes a year. Refill to the top of the sight glass.Start bike and watch oil pressure gauge go up in 3 secs max.Filter is then full.....look at the sight glass? Should be bullseye or very close.
 

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Correction!

Clymer lists 3.5 L and 3.7 quarts for halfway into the sight glass with a filter change.

In fact, in my '02 RS, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass with a filter change.

3.7 quarts brings it to the top of the red ring in the sight glass.

THUS, there is still residual oil (not drained) even with overnight draining.

BTW, I use Mobil 5 W 30 synthetic oil.

Mystery Solved!!!

:clap:

I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.
 
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