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I am moving to France from the UK before the year is out and I would like to look into the possibilty/cost to reduce the horse power of my K1200GT to the legal limit in France which is about 104bhp or I think 78KW.

I notice in the hand book it shows two power figures 96KW and 72KW.

Does anyone know about this or should I contact a BMW dealer, who in my experience with their car sales people, may not have a clue what I am on about!

If need be the bike will have to stay in UK for 6 months of the year and 6 months in france to get around it.

I can't believe that a Country so liberal in certain aspects has put a ridiculous limit on bikes. What good is 100bhp to anyone???????

Any info. gratefully received.
 

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The airbox and a plug for somewhere in the wiring are what's needed. Described in this article:

http://www.flyingbrick.de/GB/the_k1200_rs-lt-gt.html

Not sure what year your bike is, as this info may only be relevant to early ones.

Airboxes quite often appear on ebay (Germany):

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Luftfilter-Drossellung-K1200RS-K1200_W0QQitemZ190132256069QQihZ009QQcategoryZ86744QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But, as mentioned, unless you need a certificate of restriction for Tax/insurance, why bother?
 

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Thanks for the comments, suggestions.

The bike is a 2005 model K1200GT and if you want to register the bike onto French plates, which you should do after one month of living their you have to go through all sorts of hoops and provide documents of conformity from BMW, etc, etc, etc.

I agree why bother, I have a hayabusa which is 175bhp and no way am I going to restrict that BUT if you ever had an accident the first thing they will ask for are papers, etc, especially if it is 'an import' so to be safe and ensure insurance is valid, etc best to do it right.

If it can't be done cheaply then, as I mentioned, both bikes will have to stay at my moms in her garage, although she doesn't know this yet!! I would have one bike over for 6 months then bring the other one over and that, in theory, should be OK even thought they should have plate change after a month I think I may be able to get away with that.

What a nightmare!!
 

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I am sure we do have free movement of goods in EU but not, it seems, for bikes that don't conform to the rules.

It is a real pain, imagine what life in England would have been like if they had managed to get the 125bhp limit set all those years ago when there was talk of it, mind you I suppose we would not have known better :D

Anyway I will keep looking into it but I'm not taking it to the court of human rights, just yet :teeth
 

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I am sure we do have free movement of goods in EU but not, it seems, for bikes that don't conform to the rules.

It is a real pain, imagine what life in England would have been like if they had managed to get the 125bhp limit set all those years ago when there was talk of it, mind you I suppose we would not have known better :D

Anyway I will keep looking into it but I'm not taking it to the court of human rights, just yet :teeth
I did forget to mention something. I've looked at some of the code sets in the ECU Eprom chips and before I knew the K12's could be got in a lower horsepower, I spotted references to the lower horsepower in BMW's ECU firmware code. Of course I rushed into my local stealer wanting to know if I had a bike with the lower HP.

It's just a thought, but It may be just the ECU that determines max horsepower. Of course once you put back the UK oem ECU or a performance chip you're back to the higher HP. I guess your process is to get a fr dealer to do the power 'retrograde' and give you some sort of paperwork it would also appear on the stealer network logs. What you do afterwards is up to you. Once you have the tank off , the ECU is pretty accessible.

I can't see the point in running a very heavy K12 with reduced horsepower. There are alternative lighter bikes that might be better, but I can't think af any in the proper touring category. Once you add pillion and luggage you need the chevaux.



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Thanks for the info. voxmanga, I will call into a BMW dealer here and see what they say.

I agree with you in the fact that I bet it is a pig to ride with 100bhp or so and knocking on 500kg!!
 

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That's just one more reason to not live in France.
 

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Liberals....P.U.......What :manure:
Moving to France, what happened, did you lose a bet? They'll probably make you buy Michelin tires too.:D
 

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No lose of bets, will keep buying Avon tyres, even if I have to buy them from England!!!

it is fantastic out here providing you don't want to start a business, employ anyone, want to buy a bike with more than 100bhp, etc, etc

however the property is still very affordable, the lifestyle is fantastic, if you are in the countryside as we are, it is like England was 40 years ago. No shops open on a Sunday, shops closed for two hours at lunchtime, etc but once you get used to it and step off the 24/7 merry-go-round of England, and lots of other Countries it really is very appealing, honest.

And the roads are fantastic for riding on on top of all that.
 

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Personally, I would not strangle my GT. I would swap the bikes over every 6 months or, find some other solution. As others have said, I would get the bike certified as legal etc and then perhaps see how easy it is to return her to her original spec.

Good luck !
 

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Just one more reason for everyone else to despise us here.

We want it all, and we want it now. Bigger, faster, more power, :dance:

I'm not going to lie to you though....I thoroughly enjoy not having to worry about restricting my bike. I like to go very very fast.

Good luck to ya, and post some pics of the 2 bikes together. A busa and a beemer in the same stable.....I'd lose my license.
 

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I will pop some pictures on when I get back to England with the bike as am working in sunny, lovely, France till 8th August.

I have to say that I am getting severe pressure to sell one of the bikes and it looks as if the Busa may have to leave the stable. I have had it for 5 years and enjoyed it but after a trip down to the Pyrennes in France last week, first trip out on the GT, it is a great bike.

Handles well, goes ok (no hayabusa but hey) stops well, fuel good, comfortable BUT the worlds worst gearbox !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still can't have it all I suppose!
 

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Hello Nige;

I was in France too this last weekend on my GT (see http://www.k-bikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10750 )

You're right, the GT isn't the fastest bike out there, but boy does it crack a pace! I found that on the (good) D roads I was able to travel at 70-90 mph very easily and the bike handled well. The only time when my friend's BMW R100 seemed to take it more easily was on the real twisties in which case his light weight enabled him to flick the bike effortlessly around the bends; the GT requires more "positioning" !

Anyway, glad that you're no longer going to strangle the GT :clap: (at least i hope so !)
 

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Hi John

Glad you had a good run across to Brittany. You wont have been far from me as I am in Basse Normandy.

As you say bike does set a decent pace, in fact next time I am going to raise the footpegs because twice on left handers when I had it really cranked over I ran the side of my boot along the road!!!! Time to raise the pegs I think!
 
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