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Good day from sunny Cape Town, South Africa. I've just traded-in my 2005 R1200ST for a K1200GT.

What a bike, it's uncramped like the ST and far smoother. I dabled for a long while before making the plunge especially as there's a new GT on the horizon.

The dealer in Cape Town had to shoot my ST back to me as I began to have gear change problems with the GT on Friday afternoon. Even in Africa there's service!!! Their service manager went into the dealership to collect the ST and personally rode it to my home on Saturday morning so that I would'nt be without a ride, as Sundays we do a breakfast run of 250Km's.

In South Africa workshops are closed on a Saturday, but showrooms are open until 13h00.

Getting back to the gear change problem, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, were all OK, but, 4th thru 6th could only be engaged by backing off on the throttle reducing speed & then fumbling a bit for the next gear finally, it finally took etc, etc. They seem to believe that draining the gearbox & re-filling it with new engine oil, running it on the bench for half an hour & then re-draining it again & then replacing with fresh gearbox oil will do the trick. It better work otherwise there's a new gearbox coming my way that's for sure.

Any comments please would be appreciated.

Cheers from sunny Cape Town, South Africa.
 

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Welcome!

Glad you're enjoying the new ride. Since the bike is new, you're covered under warranty. Not sure if repeated oil changes will cure your shift problems, I'd request a new gear box for piece of mind. Hate to have it crap out in the middle of anywhere.

Tell us more about your GT - color, MY (model year), options, price?;)
 

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Hi From South Africa

Hi Tim:

I will post a few photo's shortly. The GT is a 2004 with 6250 miles on the clock. Colour is Oriental Blue, heated seat, speed o cruise, heated grips/ABS, electric screen (stock) with new Bridgestone BT012 SS tires (fitted Friday). I've ordered a BMW top box from the dealer as well. My ST had one with the optional back-rest which was a joy for the wife.

It might sound strange to you that I traded-in the new ST on a second hand GT, but I had paid cash for the ST & needed some cash out of the deal & took the plunge on the GT (put down big deposit & financed the balance). I hear you say Crazy!!!. By the sounds of all the praise, my wife & I will really enjoy it. I paid approx $12000 for it which a saving on a new one approx $21000 (bikes are expensive here). So you can see it was a no brainer!!! Buying new would have been crazy, especially if the new GT is soon to be launched. In fact the dealer suggested the 2004 over a new unit. Now BMW need to come to the party on the gearbox. Some how I don't think it's too serious. The factory warranty expires 01/01/2006 so you can bet your life I am going over it from top to bottom.

Cape Town has fantastic rides & within a hours ride we are out of the city in in the country with beautiful senery & great places to visit. There's a huge market here & bike sales have increased 52% over last year alone. For me, I've hit what they call a mid-life crisis, after hanging up the gloves & helmet early in the 80's. Having owned Honda 350 Four, Suzuki GT380, Honda 600 F4, BMW R1100S, R1200ST & now the GT, I don't think I will get it out of my system easily, especially since my wife now loves it.

I own the only Beemer amongst our crowd of friends. We mostly ride together on breakfast runs on Sundays & cover between 125-200 miles depending on the destination.

The availability of bikes in South Africa is much the same as the US with proud bikers spending fortunes on bikes, including accessories.

Any way i've got carried away with waffling on, so I am going to bid you good day for now.

Ride safely & I thanks for the quick response to my posting.

Cheers
Craig :bmw:
 

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Go GIVI

I might suggest cancelling the Top-box order and rather getting yourself a Givi E46 topcase... :rolleyes:

The BMW topcase for the GT is a little dissapointing... only holds One helmet and doesn't do the styling of the bike any justice...

However, the GIVI E46 not only looks the part, it comes with a decent mounting plate and can hold 2 Full face helmets... plus has a nice backrest for the wife optional...

This link 'should' take you to some photos of mine : http://www.k-bikes.com/gallery/files/7/5/2/2/DSCF0008-2.JPG

Gimme a shout if you wanna meet up sometime to check it out :cool:

BTW - Nice to have a fellow Cape Townian around :)
 

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Sounds to me like they are servicing the bikes with the wrong gear oil/lub during the service/pre deliver process...

interesting!!
 

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Dumb laws

The only thing I can reply to is the problems with hours shops/stores keep.
I moved to CO here in the US from CA and they have antiquated laws tied to religion, which make it impossible to buy a car on Sun. You can look at them, but can't buy. There are some others too, but that is enough raveing.

Have fun with your purchase
 

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Hi Matt

Thanks for the info. Givi looks the part & is similiar to the Givi I had on my 2002 R1100S. What's up with the number plate? Donford BMW did the gearbox flush & new oil today but incredibly had no time to road test. Something about a whole lot of new bikes in crates arriving. Not my problem, bad excuse under the circumstances.

Hope to see you on the road sometime.

Safe riding
Craig
 

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Vanguard said:
I might suggest cancelling the Top-box order and rather getting yourself a Givi E46 topcase... :rolleyes:

The BMW topcase for the GT is a little dissapointing... only holds One helmet and doesn't do the styling of the bike any justice...

However, the GIVI E46 not only looks the part, it comes with a decent mounting plate and can hold 2 Full face helmets... plus has a nice backrest for the wife optional...

This link 'should' take you to some photos of mine : http://www.k-bikes.com/gallery/files/7/5/2/2/DSCF0008-2.JPG

Gimme a shout if you wanna meet up sometime to check it out :cool:

BTW - Nice to have a fellow Cape Townian around :)
Hi again Matt:

One question on the Givi. The Givi I had on the R1100S had a frame that was very flimsy. It eventually snapped on both sides through stress caused by my wife moving against it under sudden excelleration. I cannot seem to identify mounting points on your RS from the photo.

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Craig
 

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Shift Problem

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This may sound "dumb" as I certainly felt that way after experiencing the same problem you describe with my 04GT. I even had it to the dealer, who could find no problem with it.
I've been riding 35+ years so I should know a little? I tried very carefully to figure out what caused this shift problem. Usually higher gears and only on the upshift. Oh well, oh well, I found I was not getting the top of my boot free of the shift lever after every shift. If you don't release the shift lever completely the damn thing will not upshift to the next higher gear without a fight. Shifts perfectly now and stupid foot is out of the way.
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Hi Gerry:

The gear selector would not shift up from 3rd > 6th. However, I changed gears seamlessly up/down prior to the problem. The service manager at the dealer took it for I ride on Saturday & also confirmed that he had struggled. No problems down shifting.

I am just going to have to wait on their report.

Regards
Craig

Thanks for your valued input.
 

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No problem shifting my '05...No problems with anything actually tho I was a little disappointed I couldn't put my XL full-face helmet in either hardbag. And why no helmet lock on a $25,000 (Cdn) bike?
 

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No problem shifting my '05...No problems with anything actually tho I was a little disappointed I couldn't put my XL full-face helmet in either hardbag. And why no helmet lock on a $25,000 (Cdn) bike?
I was reading another post, and someone did mention the helmet hooks are under the seat. Maybe not the most convenient but you should have it there. It's not mentioned in the owners manual. You see, now your bike is worth the $25,000.....:p
 

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Topcase stuff..

I will take some closer pics for you of the mounting brakets... I know they have recently (2003) been upgraded.

Case seems very firm... although not much can withstand the awesome acceleration of our bikes ;)

There is always the option to add additional mounts to the grab-rail to give extra strength.

..number plate was just a bit of photoshop fun :cool: from the 'ol "I-BMW" days...

ciao
 

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You're sport.

Cheers & safe riding
Craig
 

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I was reading another post, and someone did mention the helmet hooks are under the seat. Maybe not the most convenient but you should have it there. It's not mentioned in the owners manual. You see, now your bike is worth the $25,000.....:p
Got the GT back today & it changes up through the gears like silk. Guess the flush & gearbox oil change did the trick. Apparently the previous owner took off & toured South Africa, ran the bulk of the mileage up & then it stood for 8 months. He eventually did a trade-in on a new BMW 1 Series saloon.

Thanks everyone for the input.

Cheers from Cape Town, South Africa.
 

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Matt:

Weather permitting, are you riding this weekend? Perhaps we can meet somewhere!!!

This gale force wind better abait by the weekend. If you dont mind, email me with contact details. Email is [email protected].

Cheers
Craig
 

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Here are the Attachment pics as promised...

ciao...
 

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Vanguard said:
Here are the Attachment pics as promised...

ciao...
Thanks Matt, it sure looks the part with the extra stability fastners you used to the standard luggage rack. I see there appears to be some postings of other riders complaining about instability with their Givi's. Your mod could well be the answer to there woes.

I have responded to your email which I guess you will receive prior to viewing this response.

Cheers
Craig
 
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