BMW K1200, K1300, and K1600 Forum banner

1 - 20 of 23 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,160 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
My friend Tom told me that whenever I get near his LT with my new GT, his radar detector goes nuts! We tested it parked next to each other, and sure enough. As soon as I start the GT - BEEP BEEP BEEP! IIRC, I think it was the X-Band that was freaking out. I can't remember what brand detector. A Valentine, I think. :think:

Now the big questions are:
  1. What's causing it?
  2. What can be done about it?
I don't own a radar detector...nor plan on it. Just trying to help the folks that do.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
68 Posts
messenger13 said:
My friend Tom told me that whenever I get near his LT with my new GT, his radar detector goes nuts! We tested it parked next to each other, and sure enough. As soon as I start the GT - BEEP BEEP BEEP! IIRC, I think it was the X-Band that was freaking out. I can't remember what brand detector. A Valentine, I think. :think:

Now the big questions are:
  1. What's causing it?
  2. What can be done about it?
I don't own a radar detector...nor plan on it. Just trying to help the folks that do.
that makes no sense at all
are you running any other electronics on your bike?
could he have something else on HIS OWN BIKE that might be "REACTING" to YOUR bike?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,160 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
ClearwaterBMW said:
that makes no sense at all
are you running any other electronics on your bike?
could he have something else on HIS OWN BIKE that might be "REACTING" to YOUR bike?
At the time tested, my GT was bone stock with the exception of my Garmin 2610...which never caused problems while I rode with him on my LT about a billion times. Furthermore, I didn't turn OFF the 2610 while next to him, just the GT.

Sorry dude, I'm telling you, there something on this GT that we don't know about... But we will!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
68 Posts
messenger13 said:
At the time tested, my GT was bone stock with the exception of my Garmin 2610...which never caused problems while I rode with him on my LT about a billion times. Furthermore, I didn't turn OFF the 2610 while next to him, just the GT.

Sorry dude, I'm telling you, there something on this GT that we don't know about... But we will!
AH.....
this might be your answer
Garmin units, have long been known to trigger false alarms in certain radar detectors
Jeff/El Jeffe might remember some of these issues and help out with an answer
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
457 Posts
Or maybe....just maybe....big brother has finally infultrated our bikes and we are broadcasting our every movement to the authorities. Could be the only chance they have of actually catching us in the act!
 

·
Statmaster
Joined
·
2,313 Posts
What brand Radar to YOU have. Cheap radar detectors tend to leak X-band a lot. Happens whenever I go down the freeway and somebody with a Bel or Uniden unit is close to me.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,160 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
ClearwaterBMW said:
AH.....
this might be your answer
Garmin units, have long been known to trigger false alarms in certain radar detectors
Jeff/El Jeffe might remember some of these issues and help out with an answer
Hello! Are you listening to me? My 2610, and Tom's 276c has never made his detector freak out before. The ONLY thing different here is MY GT. Not my GPS. Not HIS GPS. Nothing new electronically. Just MY GT.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
96 Posts
only your bike?

by chance has he been close to any other "newer" K bikes? Canbus wiring, no ground wire might emit an electrical signature.

Does it happen with the key turned on but the bike not started? IF so, then something in the base electronics. if only when started, then maybe the alternator post is correct.

Does it happen when the bike is within a certain radius? Side to side, front to his bike, any directional evidence of the signal being hotter than any other direction?

Take a metal cookie sheet and put it close to his radar unit inbetween your bike and his. If the shielding works then move the shielding to the alternator area of your bike and see if it shields it. If the shielding works at all move it to different areas of the GT and see if the radar pulse get weaker or goes out.

Wierd...

hope you find the answer..

Cheers.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,160 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
eljeffe said:
What brand Radar to YOU have. Cheap radar detectors tend to leak X-band a lot. Happens whenever I go down the freeway and somebody with a Bel or Uniden unit is close to me.
I don't have a detector. Once again, my LT was stock except for the 2610. Period.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,160 Posts
Discussion Starter #11 (Edited)
Solved?

Tried the AM radio test. Turned a little AM radio on near the GT. When the GT is running, I hear terrible CLICKING . . . like a freakin' Geigor counter! It stops when I shut the bike off. Me thinks it's the alternator boys and girls.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
68 Posts
messenger13 said:
Hello! Are you listening to me? My 2610, and Tom's 276c has never made his detector freak out before. The ONLY thing different here is MY GT. Not my GPS. Not HIS GPS. Nothing new electronically. Just MY GT.
ok....
sometimes i DO listen to what you are "saying"
sorry..... this, apparently, wasn't one of them :rotf:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
138 Posts
Radar detector and GPS on the GT

I have a V1 mounted in under the front cowling and have a Gadget guy GPS mount with a Garmin 378. Both function normally.

Any infrared or radio transmitters (CB) around?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
80 Posts
I have an '04 KGT with a V1. When I ride with my buddy on a tricked out LT with a K40 radar detector, my V1 screams bloody murder. I usually have to turn it off.

Is the problem with my V1? I don't think I would dare say the K40 is a "cheap" radar detector like the Bel and Uniden mentioned above.

DaMu
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
896 Posts
It's being caused by either the alternator the electronic ignition, or both. I once had a V1 mounted on a R1100RT that when passing through a certain rpm range it would go off.. Called Valentine and they were pretty sure it was the ignition.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
2,680 Posts
grifscoots said:
So, did Valentine have any idea's on how to fix it?
Valentine 1 has some info on their site on "False Alarms." One of their cures is to shut off the offending band. A trial and error method.

Another, although unlikely in this instance, was the upper brake light and tailight LED's on certain vehicles tripping the Laser band portion. The "other radar detectors" was also mentioned.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
192 Posts
messenger13 said:
My friend Tom told me that whenever I get near his LT with my new GT, his radar detector goes nuts! We tested it parked next to each other, and sure enough. As soon as I start the GT - BEEP BEEP BEEP! IIRC, I think it was the X-Band that was freaking out. I can't remember what brand detector. A Valentine, I think. :think:

Now the big questions are:
  1. What's causing it?
  2. What can be done about it?
I don't own a radar detector...nor plan on it. Just trying to help the folks that do.
In order to start diagnosing the problem, we need to know for sure which band. I'd guess "Laser", perhaps from Motolights (if you had them on at the time), or tail lights. I had an Escort 8500K50 (latest model) a couple of years ago that falsed lots of places on Laser, until I had to disable the Laser alert (menu item). It's replacement isn't much better, I disabled the laser alert on it too.

If it's a Valentine, and the false is on X-Band, I'd suggest that he try running it in the 'little L" setting, which reduces sensitivity to X band a bit. We always run ours in that setting, due to shopping center door openers.

I have a radar detector, in a tank bag, on my GT. My wife had a Valentine detector on the R1200RT that she just traded, and we've ridden thousands of miles with one ahead of the other, and short periods of side by side, and are usually only a few feet apart when we start them. We've NEVER had a false indication from each others bike. We do get a false sometimes from cheap detectors from cars.

My first guess is that your companion's bike is sending low voltage to his detector, which will cause the detector to alert much more quickly.

In any case, I'm sure that it's not a design problem with our GT's, as my detector works great, and so does my wife's when she's riding near me.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
192 Posts
DaMu said:
I have an '04 KGT with a V1. When I ride with my buddy on a tricked out LT with a K40 radar detector, my V1 screams bloody murder. I usually have to turn it off.

Is the problem with my V1? I don't think I would dare say the K40 is a "cheap" radar detector like the Bel and Uniden mentioned above.

DaMu
No, I woudn't call a K-40 "cheap", but they spray RF like mad! I have one on both cars, and either will set off the other from half a block away!
 
1 - 20 of 23 Posts
Top