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Hello all KRS/GT owners. I'm really enjoying my new ride, an '04 KRS. Great handling machine, despite the common characteristics of this model.

Does anyone know how the turn signal auto cancellation work on my KRS? Is it based on time or motion? Can't seem to find any notes about that in the owners manual, nor does my dealer know for sure.....or does it even have this feature?:confused:
 

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Lucky88 said:
Hello all KRS/GT owners. I'm really enjoying my new ride, an '04 KRS. Great handling machine, despite the common characteristics of this model.

Does anyone know how the turn signal auto cancellation work on my KRS? Is it based on time or motion? Can't seem to find any notes about that in the owners manual, nor does my dealer know for sure.....or does it even have this feature?:confused:
Whooo...this has been raised as a question before, and I don't think conclusively answered. I believe it's a two stage process, as it's based on the speed you're going. Under 35MPH, it's a specific distance. Over 35, it's timed. Mine is 15 flashes when the speed is above 35, but I haven't exactly timed it. Good enough for changing two lanes at 65 in a non-agressive manner.
Now, the 35MPH cross-over may be some speed less than that, just not by much. Hopefully, other opinions will rise to the occasion, and maybe someone will actually measure.




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Ray, thanks for the info. I'm going to give it a try. Coming from riding bikes with left controls for turns and cancel, I'm going to have to get used to the right controls for that. The auto cancel will sure be a good thing:)
 

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Also, they'll blink all day at a stoplight or stop sign, then cancel themselves once you get moving over about 5mph.
 

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My signals ALWAYS cancel at 50 MPH when accelerating regardless of time or distance
 

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My signals ALWAYS cancel at 50 MPH when accelerating regardless of time or distance
Don't quote me, but I believe it works on a "set distance" to turn off. If above quote was true, the signals would never turn off below 50, and mine definately do. It does not have anything to do with how many "flashes" occurs. If that was true, and you had a long light, it would shut off, which I am sure BMW would not engineer into a bike.
 

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Interesting, mine always cancel at 30 when accelerating from a stop, don't know about accelerating from 30 or 40.
 

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timed cancellation

The turn signals will automatically cancel after 15 seconds while the bike is in gear, regardless of what speed you are traveling. IF the bike is in neutral or if the clutch is pulled in the auto cancellation will no longer work. This is why while at a stop light it will never turn itself off.

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Don't quote me, but I believe it works on a "set distance" to turn off. If above quote was true, the signals would never turn off below 50, and mine definately do. It does not have anything to do with how many "flashes" occurs. If that was true, and you had a long light, it would shut off, which I am sure BMW would not engineer into a bike.
Clarification: Mine also auto-cancel below 50MPH. What I'm saying is if I accelerate briskly/WOT/etc they cancel as soon as I hit 50 MPH. There's no waiting so-many seconds for it to happen. It's like 50 MPH overrides any time or distance algorithms.
 

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Clarification: Mine also auto-cancel below 50MPH. What I'm saying is if I accelerate briskly/WOT/etc they cancel as soon as I hit 50 MPH. There's no waiting so-many seconds for it to happen. It's like 50 MPH overrides any time or distance algorithms.
OK, I'm gonna try this tomorrow on bike. Since I can do 60mph in first gear (I'm overweight) they will probably turn off pretty quick. I am not disagreeing with you, but (just asking) that would mean that when I am doing a steady 30, turn left signal on to change lanes, that when I accelerate to 50 (very quickly) my signal turns off??. Sorry, mine does not do this. Either it is the 15 sec. rule, or tripped by length of travel (so many feet). I think. Duh?. Actually, I think they always stay on too long, so I'm always cancelling them b4 they turn off. Does everybody agree that the turn signal switch should only be on one side??. (God forbid.....) On my old Suzuki GS1100E (1983) it was on one side, self cancelling, or you could "push" in on button to cancel. This bike was neat too, as it had a 9" headlight and you could do the "oldtimers" trick of gently moving headlight switch "between" High-Low beam and get both filaments to stay on at night, it was cool.
 

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My '03 KRS seems to have 14 blinks before turn off. I think the cancellation is dependant on road speed and gear position. My signals do not cancel if I am in gear or out of gear waiting at a light. As I pull away the signals keep blinking as I change up to 3rd and 4th. When I pass 30-35 the signals cancel. Of course by then much distance and time has passed and 14 blinks happened a long time ago.

Just my unscientific observations.

Oh... I am training my self to the BMW switchgear. I like the left right thumb paddles for turn signals. The self-cancel feature makes the asymetric off button easier to live with. Over all it just takes getting used to. I see more benefit than problem. The quick access to turn signals makes the longer stretch to horn and very long stretch to high low beam switches seem difficult. Oh well.
 

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It's just like anything else, it takes repitition to learn. I didn't like where the cancel switch was located when I first got my RS but now it is a natural movement to cancel the signal. Just keep using the cancelation switch and pretty soon you won't ahve to think about it. Don
 

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OK, I'm gonna try this tomorrow on bike. Since I can do 60mph in first gear (I'm overweight) they will probably turn off pretty quick. I am not disagreeing with you, but (just asking) that would mean that when I am doing a steady 30, turn left signal on to change lanes, that when I accelerate to 50 (very quickly) my signal turns off??. Sorry, mine does not do this. Either it is the 15 sec. rule, or tripped by length of travel (so many feet). I think. Duh?. Actually, I think they always stay on too long, so I'm always cancelling them b4 they turn off. Does everybody agree that the turn signal switch should only be on one side??. (God forbid.....) On my old Suzuki GS1100E (1983) it was on one side, self cancelling, or you could "push" in on button to cancel. This bike was neat too, as it had a 9" headlight and you could do the "oldtimers" trick of gently moving headlight switch "between" High-Low beam and get both filaments to stay on at night, it was cool.
As an experiment today I was cruising at 30 MPH, activated the turn signal, snapped the throttle open and accelerated past 50. Signal stayed on.

Looking back, I've only noticed the "always cancels at 50" when accelerating from a dead stop. I'm wondering what effect the clutch pulled in and/or wheels at dead stop have in the cancel algorithm. I mention this because I come to a T-intersection in my neighborhood (I have to turn right or left) where I hit the left turn signal, downshift (with clutch), and turn without stopping. I drive (down the street I just made a left onto) 190 yards and the turn signal doesn't cancel. At that point I have to turn again. Either the cancel algorithm needs more than 190 yards ( or some time factor) or the fact that I haven't come to a dead stop seems to be coming into play. I can hit 50+ in less than 190 yards from a dead stop and the signal always cancels. I've also noticed that when using the signal during a steady-state cruise to indicate lane changes the signal never seems to cancel (or stays on an incredibly long time). Hmmm.... more experiments needed.
 

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I didn't know my K RS had this feature until I read it here. Isn't the Internet wonderful?

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Ron, the owners manual never stated this feature either. I learned a lot on this site too! :)
 

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Both

It is based on both.
It will go off after so many miles, or off after so much time if you are not moving
 

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It is based on both.
It will go off after so many miles, or off after so much time if you are not moving

Confirmed !! I too was one of the un-informed masses of this feature till I read this post :p , but I played around a bit over the weekend , and can say with 90% certainty that the signal turns off after exactly 200m ... never stayed still long enough to check the time option though :cool:
 

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Agreed!!

This feature is strictly distance ONLY and not time nor flashes nor how fast (40mph, 50mph, etc, etc). I think is just a concidence that it happens to be 'around' 40 or 50mph when you start from dead stop to 200 meters...
 

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