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I was wondering what intercom and music systems you all have installed on your GT. I have decided that it is time to get one, and having never owned one before, I am not sure where to go with it all. So some questions...

1) What model did you get?
2) How did you wire it with the CAN-BUS?
3) Where did you put the control box?

Thanks,
Brian
 

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bnblazer said:
I was wondering what intercom and music systems you all have installed on your GT. I have decided that it is time to get one, and having never owned one before, I am not sure where to go with it all. So some questions...

1) What model did you get?
2) How did you wire it with the CAN-BUS?
3) Where did you put the control box?

Thanks,
Brian
1. Autocom ProAVI
2. I have a Centech AP-1 fuse box placed on top of the battery that powers my Autocom. The AP-1 is powered from the battery with a fused MOSFET relay coming from the parking lamp
3. The ProAVI control box is in the place where a toolkit would go if BMW wasn't "cutting costs". ;)
 

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+1

I may be a software engineer, but DC wiring is something I have never been able to get.

1) What is a MOSFET relay?
2) Why did you use it?

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Brian
 

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It's a solid state relay to allow the circuit to flow in only one direction. Since we're talking CANBUS, I thought it be better safe than sorry.
 

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It's a solid state relay to allow the circuit to flow in only one direction. Since we're talking CANBUS, I thought it be better safe than sorry.
Eljeffe, would you be willing to post some more info on your MOSFET relay, such as the specs and where you purchased it?

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Paul G.
 

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eljeffe said:
For those of us who can't read and translate Spanish, here is the site run through Google's site translator

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http://www.haridukes.cl/K1200GT/instalaciones.htm&langpair=es|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8\]
Cool installation how too, which is the most important part of happy farkling. We did Autocom's in the early days when bike to bike was a problem, which was subsequently fixed, but that put me in search of other alternatives. We have done everything but the Baehr, as much as I throw away $$ on bikes, I haven't been able to justify that one yet.

Personally, I've been using a Stracom for almost four years and helped buddies with others. Spacewife and I talk bike to bike at 80 plus next to semi's and I answer phone in third gear wound out at 80+ with no problems. Also wired up one special system with a PTT voice recorder that did 20K miles in good and bad weather and in the dirt up to Inuvik for a friend with no failures.

IMHO, they are all pretty good now (except for some of the offbeat few). When I help folks out, it's generally a problem with the way the mic and speakers are installed in the helmet, a power/ground loop problem with alternator noise entering into the equation from somewhere like an iPod or Sat radio with a cheapo DC converter or VOX BS with things not adjusted right.

I'm holding out now for a REAL implementation of a stereo bluetooth system. I know that both Starcom and Autocom are slugging it out in the UK to come out with something cool. Chatterbox tried to roll something out and retracted it (never had much luck with their stuff), but I'm hungry for a new challenge and waiting eagerly for the next big round of product releases. Bluetooth to the helmet, with integration to a cell phone and any other bluetooth device is going to be the next neat thing worth paying for.
 

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I'm holding out now for a REAL implementation of a stereo bluetooth system. I know that both Starcom and Autocom are slugging it out in the UK to come out with something cool. Chatterbox tried to roll something out and retracted it (never had much luck with their stuff), but I'm hungry for a new challenge and waiting eagerly for the next big round of product releases. Bluetooth to the helmet, with integration to a cell phone and any other bluetooth device is going to be the next neat thing worth paying for.
It looks like the BMW System V helmet is what you are looking for. Too bad they are not imported to the US.

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Guys,

Please clarify is it possible to use Autocom for communication with another bike? For three bikes?
I ride solo while my wife rides her CS and it could be very comfortable to talk to each other on the move. Will I need a CB radio for that or another device?
 

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easyman05 said:
Guys,

Please clarify is it possible to use Autocom for communication with another bike? For three bikes?
I ride solo while my wife rides her CS and it could be very comfortable to talk to each other on the move. Will I need a CB radio for that or another device?
I use an Autocomm and a Kenwood FSR on the LT and have talked to multiple bikes with it, you just have to be on the same channel. Contact Top Gear, tell them which type of radio you'll be using and they'll sell you the correct cord and push to talk.

I'll be saving the Kenwood and buying a new Autocomm for the GT as the LT will go with all the toys intact.

BTW, don't ride with El Jeffe if you have an FSR or GMSR as you'll laugh your ass off and fall off the bike.
 

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Same here, both a Kenwood GMRS with multiple riders and for some rides with another group I would swap it out for a CB.
 

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bnblazer said:
It looks like the BMW System V helmet is what you are looking for. Too bad they are not imported to the US.

Brian
The helmet part is simple and there are some stereo headsets out there as well to work with the mp3 phones and iPods. What I'm holding out for is the hub that ties in, or includes, two way radio, GPS, radar, phone and talks stereo BT out. I have a BT module now on my Starcom, but it is only for the phone and is mono to boot. I don't really care for them, but Chatterbox had a product they were going to roll out called the XB1 that has just never materialized, but it was the closest I have read about yet. I know that Starcom is working on something, which means that Autocom is as well. It's close, I can feel it in my checkbook.
 

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And if I do not need an Autocom or intercom or anything else?

All I need is to talk bike-to-bike - what do I need to buy then?
 

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easyman05 said:
And if I do not need an Autocom or intercom or anything else?

All I need is to talk bike-to-bike - what do I need to buy then?
Depends, do you want tunes, or GPS audio? If so an Autocom or Starcom is probably in order.

If not there are some cheaper options that basically provide helmet speakers, mike and PTT button for a two way radio such as Intaride (www.intaride.com), Nady and Chatterbox. The only thing that holds true between all systems is the old adage "you get what you pay for".
 

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easyman05 said:
And if I do not need an Autocom or intercom or anything else?
All I need is to talk bike-to-bike - what do I need to buy then?
Think of the AutoCom as an audio mixer only.

Whatever else you want, you need to add to it. If you want bike-to-bike, then you'll need a Kenwood FRS radio to plug into it. If you want CB (which I cannot stand as it is so much more noisy and needs a Squelch Control that the FRS radio doesn't), then you need a CB radio (Kenwood again as what AutoCom recommends) that plugs into the AutoCom. If you want a cell phone, then you can add that too.

All these items will require a "$pecial cord" from AutoCom to hook into the radio/transmitter, cell phone, GPS unit, radar detector, XM radio, etc. If you go nuts adding stuff as we all are prone to do, then it would be to your advantage to get the biggest unit to begin with and add to it. Been there. Done that.

The cords can get expensive and I would recommend getting a Ground-Loop isolator on each corded item as well. AutoCom has some two-into-one cords with isolators to prevent the dreaded ground loop problems the unit is prone to when wiring it directly into the bike's DC circuit.

I don't know offhand as the dealer did my install, but I think they have some special Can-Bus monitor that shuts power off to the unit automatically when it is installed on the Can-Bus system. Isolation may not be as big a concern either with the Can-Bus, but it sure was a problem on my older RT.

Good luck!
 

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easyman05 said:
And if I do not need an Autocom or intercom or anything else?

All I need is to talk bike-to-bike - what do I need to buy then?
Sounds like all you need is a couple of FRS radios, helmet speakers, microphone and a PTT. I bought a couple of radios from Raffy at www.motogear4you.com. Very good service and had everything I needed. My daughter and I use the radios to talk bike to bike when on the road.
 

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slowflyn said:
Sounds like all you need is a couple of FRS radios, helmet speakers, microphone and a PTT. I bought a couple of radios from Raffy at www.motogear4you.com. Very good service and had everything I needed. My daughter and I use the radios to talk bike to bike when on the road.
Yes, this is exactly what I need, thank you! Could you share your experience of installation, please? Where to put the radio?
Do you use an offset antenna? What about wind noise at high speed?
Or you just carry them in the pockets?
Thank you in advance.
 

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At the time I had multiple bikes so I never installed the radios, just put it in my pocket or clip it to my waist band. I installed the headset under the foam padding in the helmet and the mic boom tucked into the padding around the chin area. The mic would be at the corner of my mouth and that worked just fine. No problem with wind noise. The PTT comes with a velcro strap, so this got wrapped to the handlebars or grip. Very basic set up and it got the job done. :)
 
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