I wonder what the speed of the MC was and what the speed limit was? Speed does make a difference. If you are in a 25 mph zone and the bike is coming toward you at 75 or 80, then you see a bike blocks away and think there is time. Problem is the bike is going way faster than the posted limit, it gets there way faster than you'd expect.wellcraft said:no question in my mind it was the fault of the cage...plain and simple regardless the speed of the motorcycle. the cage is making a left hand turn across the bikes lane....by law the cage is supposed to yield right of way to oncoming traffic. the cage problably never bothered to look prior to making their left turn or they looked and didn't see the bike coming. these type of accidents happen all the time because people either don't look, look but don't see the bike or mis-judge the speed of the bike. i hope the guy is OK
At the risk of openig up a can of worms -- it's always partly the riders fault. Look how slow the car is turning. I'd guess the rider was looking elsewhere and didn't see the car until it was too late. Any one of us could have made the same mistake. (And I'm not saying the car driver isn't guilty. They made a poorly executed turn and didn't yield right-of-way. Being "right" isn't going to help the mtorcycle rider, though.)eljeffe said:........Arguments have been made on both sides at other sites, so let's see what the gang here has to say.
Howdy Randy,htheater said:Numerous posts state that the motorcycle is going way too fast for the road. ....
So, how fast was the motorcycle going? ...
...Was he going too fast for the traffic conditions? I don't know and neither do you.
Any way you look at it, the cage did not yield to oncoming traffic. I don't think the motorcycle's speed had anything to do with his/her judgment. The driver just didn't see or register that the bike was coming for whatever reason. Guilty!
Tough call. While the car crosses at 11 and impact is at 13 ,the attitude of the car is "left" at 10. Hard to tell if there was a turn signal. Note that the car did brake, but too late. (The vehicle behind the car had to brake quickly.) I put the bike at a max of 40 mph based on 60 feet in 1 sec (60 feet estimated from left of screen to impact.). From numerous viweings it's still impossible for me to see if the bike was on the brakes at all. Note that the person at the pumps ignores the entire episode for 5 seconds!htheater said:Hey Bill!
I respectfully disagree with your analysis. I see no indication of heading left at 10 seconds. Knowing what I know, I MIGHT be able to interpret the action at 11 seconds as straying, but, the turn isn't definite until 12 seconds.
Not saying you are wrong; just saying that is not what I see!