Will You Keep Your K12S (or KLT) Once the New "GT" Comes Out?
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My question is will I replace the current GT with a new one. Sometimes I think it's worth a look but probably not. The current one works so well and I've got the Speed Triple for sportier stuff. May be a problem if I take a test ride.
My question is will I replace the current GT with a new one. Sometimes I think it's worth a look but probably not. The current one works so well and I've got the Speed Triple for sportier stuff. May be a problem if I take a test ride.
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Will definitely keep the KS. Not giving this rocket up for anything! Now, will I keep the existing 02 LT? That's the very good question. I desire something lighter in the lbs. department. However, everytime I consider trading or selling this beast, I ride it and fall in love with this "greatest of tourers" all over again. It's all about "what's your mission"...Ah, yes, the new GT, three in the garage wouldn't hurt, now would it? I'm waiting on the release in 06.
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Ok, now you are playing with my mind. I always think the LT is gonna be the one that hits the bricks untill I ride it again and once again remember how luxurious and nice handling that beast really is? NO, NO, NO...NOT 4 bikes in the garage!!!
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Oh yes, keeping the KS. With the overwhelming number of rides I'm on less than 300 miles, it is an easy decision. Plus, there's something about leaning forward into the curves and being on a more purposeful, lighter bike for these < 300 mile rides. When I find I have the family/work time to take many long, multi-day rides then something like the R1200RT or K1200RT/GT will be on the bike-to-get short list.jpalamaro said:
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John,
Well, there's a lot of "if's" here. in your situation, assuming the FJR doesn't come your way next spring, it seems more likely you might consider selling or trading the K-S for the new RT/GT. You even played with the idea of the present GT for awhile. There's no question that the K-S is way more sport than tour.
My former GT was a very good 40 degree motorcycle; a temp. range we see alot in the early morning around the Northwet. Below that, I just won't ride a motorcycle. While the K-S, at least for me, seems to be a much better 50 degree motorcycle in the winter. I'm talking about relatively short 50 - 75 mile day rides, here.
I could be tempted by the new GT if it has most of the mid range performance of the K-S, feels nearly as light as the K-S, feels as connected to the road as the K-S (i.e. the fairing does not have the effect of isolating the rider); while at the same time has the added benefit of showing itself to be a very good 40 degree motorcycles. As a general rule, Beemers are not "hot" bikes, so summer heat (especially around the Northwest) is not a major issue as it would be for you.
I sure wish BMW would, at least, launch a tease campaign of some sort if they are not ready to release the bike, just so we could at least have a few discussion points on its overall design concept.
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Well, there's a lot of "if's" here. in your situation, assuming the FJR doesn't come your way next spring, it seems more likely you might consider selling or trading the K-S for the new RT/GT. You even played with the idea of the present GT for awhile. There's no question that the K-S is way more sport than tour.
My former GT was a very good 40 degree motorcycle; a temp. range we see alot in the early morning around the Northwet. Below that, I just won't ride a motorcycle. While the K-S, at least for me, seems to be a much better 50 degree motorcycle in the winter. I'm talking about relatively short 50 - 75 mile day rides, here.
I could be tempted by the new GT if it has most of the mid range performance of the K-S, feels nearly as light as the K-S, feels as connected to the road as the K-S (i.e. the fairing does not have the effect of isolating the rider); while at the same time has the added benefit of showing itself to be a very good 40 degree motorcycles. As a general rule, Beemers are not "hot" bikes, so summer heat (especially around the Northwest) is not a major issue as it would be for you.
I sure wish BMW would, at least, launch a tease campaign of some sort if they are not ready to release the bike, just so we could at least have a few discussion points on its overall design concept.
Miles
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Besides, a couch should be Das, masculine as in the vater LAND (Is Germany the only country that thinks in terms of father rather than mother . . . guess vaterland sounds better than schweigermutterland). And, how about boats??? Das Boot???
Besides, a couch should be Das, masculine as in the vater LAND (Is Germany the only country that thinks in terms of father rather than mother . . . guess vaterland sounds better than schweigermutterland). And, how about boats??? Das Boot???
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I hear you, loud and clear, however, she's (the LT ) a tough girl to leave!!!slowflyn said:
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I picked up my FJR1300AE order confirmation yesterday and got all enthused again. A stat that we don't have is NEW TO BMW riders. If there was any sanity in all of this, heck, the LT is a great bike, as is the R12GS, as is the etc., etc., etc.
ATGATT continues to be a challenging quest here and maybe have found something I should share. www.bohn-armor-pants.com. Could help here in FL wearing a light pair of summer cottons most of the year.
Back to the bike. I suspect the K12S would be the most likely to bite the dust since the other 2 fit special niche, as long as the list you provide meets the bill.
Still owe you a phone call . . . if convenient I will try this weekend.
Best Regards
ATGATT continues to be a challenging quest here and maybe have found something I should share. www.bohn-armor-pants.com. Could help here in FL wearing a light pair of summer cottons most of the year.
Back to the bike. I suspect the K12S would be the most likely to bite the dust since the other 2 fit special niche, as long as the list you provide meets the bill.
Still owe you a phone call . . . if convenient I will try this weekend.
Best Regards
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As an LT rider this will be one difficult decision. I should have bought an RS in retrospect when I got the LT in Nov 2000, but now, 92,000 miles later, I am hard-pressed to say where the LT has failed me. I kinda feel that I wouldn't have a license now (thank god for cruise control) and that I wouldn't have seen as much of Canada and the US as I have where my only missing states are a few in the SW.
I have recently done the BRP three times and I fail to see how that could be done faster without seriously risking my license so a faster bike wouldn't help there. The conclusion I've come to is that the trade-off in a more intense, "personal", close-to-the-action bike ride (especially in tight corners) has been reasonably traded for the touring satisfaction and the sweeper action that the LT provides. So, while I have regrets, I can only have one bike.
Now, would I actually get rid of the LT for the new GT. Unless its really cold or raining, I always ride with the Euro screen all the way down, including the inerstates - its the pathetic way I have of making the LT less, well "LT-ish". Looking at the current GT and thinking about probable improvements, I think its the bike for me. But, hell, the LT's just paid off and I do have to cross the country a couple of times yet to do the canyon country and hit the Pashnit Top 10. Maybe a GT in 07. But then, maybe a hotted up GS with street tires would be just what the doctor orders.
As an LT rider this will be one difficult decision. I should have bought an RS in retrospect when I got the LT in Nov 2000, but now, 92,000 miles later, I am hard-pressed to say where the LT has failed me. I kinda feel that I wouldn't have a license now (thank god for cruise control) and that I wouldn't have seen as much of Canada and the US as I have where my only missing states are a few in the SW.
I have recently done the BRP three times and I fail to see how that could be done faster without seriously risking my license so a faster bike wouldn't help there. The conclusion I've come to is that the trade-off in a more intense, "personal", close-to-the-action bike ride (especially in tight corners) has been reasonably traded for the touring satisfaction and the sweeper action that the LT provides. So, while I have regrets, I can only have one bike.
Now, would I actually get rid of the LT for the new GT. Unless its really cold or raining, I always ride with the Euro screen all the way down, including the inerstates - its the pathetic way I have of making the LT less, well "LT-ish". Looking at the current GT and thinking about probable improvements, I think its the bike for me. But, hell, the LT's just paid off and I do have to cross the country a couple of times yet to do the canyon country and hit the Pashnit Top 10. Maybe a GT in 07. But then, maybe a hotted up GS with street tires would be just what the doctor orders.
If the new GT is a much fun as the S, can't see why you need both.
However, if it's not as good as the S, then I will have to decide between keeping the RS and getting a v-twin for sporting times, or trade it out for the S and make sure I travel light(er) on the long trips.
However, if it's not as good as the S, then I will have to decide between keeping the RS and getting a v-twin for sporting times, or trade it out for the S and make sure I travel light(er) on the long trips.
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"If you have a K12S will you keep it if the new GT has the requirements the thread dealing with what you want on the new GT/ST/RT"
Hell yes! The K1200S is a long term keeper in my garage. It fits my mission of twisty munching and tours of 6 hours or less perfectly. With seldom a pillion the rear seat has all the storage I need with a tail bag.
Next bike for the stable will be a new R6 (throttle by wire!) but the K12S will be my tourer of choice for a good 4-6 years.
Having said that, I'm suspecting that many of the parts for the new GT will be installable on the S. A backrest perhaps? Heated seat? That's about all I need to be a happy camper.
Hell yes! The K1200S is a long term keeper in my garage. It fits my mission of twisty munching and tours of 6 hours or less perfectly. With seldom a pillion the rear seat has all the storage I need with a tail bag.
Next bike for the stable will be a new R6 (throttle by wire!) but the K12S will be my tourer of choice for a good 4-6 years.
Having said that, I'm suspecting that many of the parts for the new GT will be installable on the S. A backrest perhaps? Heated seat? That's about all I need to be a happy camper.
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