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I had a very old heavy leather jacket that wore out after 25 years of near daily use. As a surprise, my wife bought me a cheap leather "motorcycle" jacket to replace it. The new jacket is warm (and I have a heated liner for longer rides when I need it), but the jacket is thin leather and has no armor. It won't protect me in a fall.

I have a BMW Venting Machine mesh jacket for "summer" riding, which for me translates into mornings as low as 55 F where I know it will be much warmer later in the day.

I need a new jacket that works for Southern California winters, which are fairly mild. It must be able to stand up to daily use for a commute. Typical commute temperatures are in the low 40s F in the early morning, and can get up as high as 85 F in the late afternoon ride home. A new jacket should be good for an hour in 35 F weather without requiring a heated liner.

I don't want a jacket with large logos on it. I want one where I can ride to an event and and wear it in the place of a sport coat without being totally out of place.

I looked at the following, so far:

BMW Rally Pro - Too heavy, too complex, expensive. One customer told me that he has one, and it isn't warm when temps are in the 30s and 40s. He also said that it isn't as waterproof as they would lead you to believe.

BMW Tourance 2 - Sleeves too tight. Didn't fit right.

BMW Atlantis 4 - Stiff, but I am hoping that it will loosen up. Seems to be the one for me.

Just for giggles, I stopped at the Harley-Davidson dealer. They have lots of leather jackets, but only one with armor, the FXRG. It was okay, but the armor seemed very thin.

I am looking for:

--> Your experience with the BMW Atlantis 4 jacket?

--> Your recommendation for a durable winter jacket?
 

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I feel your pain, I'm living with a 6 year old Kilimanjaro, which has served me well, but it's not really waterproof, and very bulky/stiff. I started a search for a winter jacket that would give me the same mobility, as the mesh teck does. Rally Pro 2 very bulky/stiff so I remembered a trip I took last July with my beemer buddies to Newfoundland. We left NY it was in the 90's, and camping in Newfoundland in the upper 30's. The only guy I remember being comfortable through it all was the only non BMW rider. Hector has an FJR, and wore this real cool looking jacket turned out to be a Revit Cayenne Pro. He was dry/ and warm in the cold, and cool in the heat. Can't try his on I'm a tad bigger than his medium jacket so found one in Manhattan tried it, and fell in love with the fit, and degree of mobility it provides. I ordered the jacket and pants from Revzilla, and should have it next week. Take a look at them they may fit your specs.
 

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Check out the BMW ComfortShell. Light, waterproof, adapts to temp changes, great armor. 4 season and no liners to fool with.
 

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I still recommend the Aerostich. I use a Darien jacket and an electric Kanetsu full jacket liner.
That combo is not going to make it in our 80° afternoons and the liner would have to be stowed. But then again, I don't know anything that will.
 

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David,

I fully understand your requirements for a winter jacket as I'm going through much of the same angst living in Texas. Believe you're wise to eschew the cheap stuff as you're throwing good money after bad.

With the 2009 BMW Apparel about to be introduced, there are some great deals to be had on the 2008 line. I just bought the Streetguard 2 jacket ($849 list) for a song from Sierra BMW. Since it's lined I should be warm on days that begin on the cold side and when things warm up, I can zip out the insert. The jacket is extremely well made and the amour is adjustable for different body types. While the Streetguard 2 (or new Streetguard 3) might not be the exact jacket for your needs, I feel you're on the right track with the BMW line.

I was so impressed with the quality of the SG2 jacket, I bought the Airflow 3 for summer.

Best of luck my friend!

David
 

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Take a look at the Joe Rocket Ballistic. It's good to below freezing. In the summer I leave the liner out, and for the afternoon commute home I unzip a few inches and leave the velcro cuffs open. The ballistic material does not let any wind or weather through and it's not that heavy and crunchy feeling.
 

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The best protection for your body is Kevlar. Go to www.motoport.com and check out there line. I have the GP-2 jacket. They also make a mesh Kevlar jacket and pants that people really like which I am hearing about more and more. Should be perfect here in SoCal.
The base price of the GP-2 jacket is $399.00. It has all of the armor in it. Nothing will protect you like this material. I bought the two liners for it which cost me another $150. Since you have a heated liner I would not even bother with an additional liner. My OTD cost was $630 with shipping . I also had a reflective stripe put on the arms so I would "light up" at night. This jacket is great in the rain as well. The lifespan of this jacket will easily be 10-15 years. I have a buddy who has been down at 75 mph with his '98 GS on top of him sliding down the road and not a mark on him. He has also flown over the hood of a dually at 45 mph and slid down the road at least 100' and not a mark on him. After my second get off in 2 years I decided to chuck the leather jacket and jeans for good.
 

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Had an original Tour Guard and loved it. Now I have the Street Guard II and find it even better than the Tour Guard.
 

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REV'IT Devil works just great for me. Comfortable, very warm, good protection (dang, that reminds me: I never upgraded the back armor to Knox as I was planning to!) and stylish.
 

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Have you looked into a Olympia AST jacket? Going on my 3rd. season,have to say its a very good quality product. Its a bit "bulky" at first but, washing it helps soften it up a bit. The "AST" looks more like "ADV"rider wear but, on my RS i like the 3/4 length. A very versitile jacket indeed. Good from temps low 30's to well into the low 80's. venting works well, best of luck in your search!....C. :snowlaff:
 

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I have an Atlantis 3 that I love. It is comfortable and flexible and warm enough to about 50 for shorter rides. If you put a liner in it 40 degrees is fine. Mine is quite flexible but I have worn it for about a year off and on. BMW of Daytona has a sale on the 3. great armor also.
I recommend it but try a 3 on sale, it is virtually the same jacket.
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I have an Olympia AST. It is bulky, but I have found it to be very versatile. It is waterproof and comfortable with the liner, in temps in the 30's. Without the liner and using the vents it is OK at highway speeds in temps into the high 80's. Another plus is that you can leave the jacket on the bike and just wear the liner which looks like a regular coat. I like my Vanson leather jacket the best but the AST is the one I wear for trips and uncertain weather.
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I live in Calgary Alberta and have the BMW Rally Pro jacket and pants and what a difference from my past leader jackets. In the past would have to have a heated vest to endure the cold shift in weather in the mountains and in the spring and fall. I have as yet had to use my heated vest with the BMW Rally Pro outfit. When the hot season come along you just take the lining out and even the sleaves come off. I highly recommend this suit if you are a long distance rider who wants all in one package.
 

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Man cannot live by one jacket-or pants, alone! Collection includes, textile short and 3/4 length. Leather-short and long. Some are for longer trips and anticipated rain-leathers not too much rain please. Then there are the spring and summer jackets/pants. 40+ years of riding and there is no perfect jacket for all occasions. Then there are the Dukes specific stuff . What can I say-I'm a gear whore :teeth
 

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I like my BMW Commuter jacket but the new Revit jackets are killer. Great quality and a lot of the same technology. Check them out.
 

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I've used the Revit gear, pants, jacket, boots and gloves from 2006-2008 and found the quality to be good for the average rider. I've been putting about 15-20k a year on my bike and I go through about 2 sets of Revit boots a year so I switched over to the BMW Pro Touring Boots. The summer gloves from Revit also don't last through a season for me, last year I switched over to the BMW summer glove and I've had good results so far.
I purchased the Ignition jacket in 2006 and I had good luck with it, but it is too hot for the summer. I switched to one of their 'Air' jackets which worked better in the summer months but wasn't as durable. After a couple of months of use I noticed some of the seams were coming loose. At the end of last season I purchased the BMW CS jacket and pants and I'll see what kind of wear they can handle.
 
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