Aloha from Hawaii:
Event:
Rode out yesterday a few miles with my wife, parked for an hour. Rode another two miles in traffic and the red triangle started flashing on the cluster, coolant temp gage bars repeatedly walking up to the top of the display. Parked, waited 2.5 hours and got a flatbed home with the wife. Progressive insurance includes Roadside Assistance, yay.
Data:
Bike has never overheated in my 4.5 years ownership. 32,000 miles. New stick coils, sparkplugs and fuel pressure sensor 5 months ago, clean radiator.
I think I went less than a quarter mile with the flashing triangle, on a moderate grade at modest speeds/rpms, local temps in the upper 70s.
I didn't notice whether the fan was running when the red flashed, but I think it ran earlier in the day.
The last coolant drain/fill was by the dealer about 5 months ago. No indication of cooling problems since.
After parking 40 minutes the temp gage (engine not running) was near the bottom of the display.
There is no apparent leakage where I park the bike. I've only been riding once every week or two, usually short-ish trips in town.
Possible suspects:
There could be a small coolant leak under pressure that only drips when the system is pressurized, leaving too little coolant for an uphill ride on a bike that was warmed up.
The thermostat, fan or temp sensor could have failed.
Questions:
How could the parked non-running fully faired bike shed heat from over-temp to near the bottom of the gage in 40 minutes?
How is the fan controlled? Based on twiddling with my former '85 K100RS, several dozen BMW cars and apparent propensity for BMW to keep doing things as they always have, I think the coolant temp sensor (somewhere) reports to the ECU, which activates a relay to power (or ground) the fan. Is the relay function internal to the ECU? Where is the temp sensor and how to check it? I think the sensor would be essentially an on-off grounding device, wired to the ECU.
Is there a way to hotwire the fan while installed?
What to do?
Check for coolant at the cap under the right fairing. If not, drain and vacuum refill the cooling system.
Once refilled, look for drips from a running warmed-up bike.
Running listen for fan activation.
Remove the tstat and test for opening in a can of boiling water.
Hotwire the fan to see if it still runs.
All this requires effort, and my Sunday plans are out the window. Not a football fan so at least that isn't an issue. Work from home, can share car with wife. I'd be much more hopeful if there were better information about the bike available, as was the case for my K100RS where I had electrical diagrams and things were pretty much either in the relay box under the seat or visibly screwed onto the engine.
Open to hearing anyone's experience/suggestions about this problem and will update this thread as I go.
Event:
Rode out yesterday a few miles with my wife, parked for an hour. Rode another two miles in traffic and the red triangle started flashing on the cluster, coolant temp gage bars repeatedly walking up to the top of the display. Parked, waited 2.5 hours and got a flatbed home with the wife. Progressive insurance includes Roadside Assistance, yay.
Data:
Bike has never overheated in my 4.5 years ownership. 32,000 miles. New stick coils, sparkplugs and fuel pressure sensor 5 months ago, clean radiator.
I think I went less than a quarter mile with the flashing triangle, on a moderate grade at modest speeds/rpms, local temps in the upper 70s.
I didn't notice whether the fan was running when the red flashed, but I think it ran earlier in the day.
The last coolant drain/fill was by the dealer about 5 months ago. No indication of cooling problems since.
After parking 40 minutes the temp gage (engine not running) was near the bottom of the display.
There is no apparent leakage where I park the bike. I've only been riding once every week or two, usually short-ish trips in town.
Possible suspects:
There could be a small coolant leak under pressure that only drips when the system is pressurized, leaving too little coolant for an uphill ride on a bike that was warmed up.
The thermostat, fan or temp sensor could have failed.
Questions:
How could the parked non-running fully faired bike shed heat from over-temp to near the bottom of the gage in 40 minutes?
How is the fan controlled? Based on twiddling with my former '85 K100RS, several dozen BMW cars and apparent propensity for BMW to keep doing things as they always have, I think the coolant temp sensor (somewhere) reports to the ECU, which activates a relay to power (or ground) the fan. Is the relay function internal to the ECU? Where is the temp sensor and how to check it? I think the sensor would be essentially an on-off grounding device, wired to the ECU.
Is there a way to hotwire the fan while installed?
What to do?
Check for coolant at the cap under the right fairing. If not, drain and vacuum refill the cooling system.
Once refilled, look for drips from a running warmed-up bike.
Running listen for fan activation.
Remove the tstat and test for opening in a can of boiling water.
Hotwire the fan to see if it still runs.
All this requires effort, and my Sunday plans are out the window. Not a football fan so at least that isn't an issue. Work from home, can share car with wife. I'd be much more hopeful if there were better information about the bike available, as was the case for my K100RS where I had electrical diagrams and things were pretty much either in the relay box under the seat or visibly screwed onto the engine.
Open to hearing anyone's experience/suggestions about this problem and will update this thread as I go.